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From: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc-9GfyWEdoJtJmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: I2C from interrupt context?
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:57:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081110235734.f7666725.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3bpwrbjxs.fsf-fiqtE+24Nu0B9AHHLWeGtNQXobZC6xk2@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:05:35 +0100 Krzysztof Halasa <khc-9GfyWEdoJtJmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > The situation is far from perfect though. For one thing, I seem to
> > recall that Andrew Morton didn't like the approach taken in
> > i2c_transfer(). For another, i2c_smbus_xfer() was not yet modified so
> > at this point only I2C-level transactions can be non-sleeping,
> > SMBus-level transactions can't. But all this could be fixed by anyone
> > who cares about these specific issues.
> 
> Thanks, I'll look at it.

The problem (well: bug) is that in_atomic() returns false inside a
spinlock when CONFIG_PREEMPT=n.  The code as it stands can sleep
inside a spinlock, which is deadlockable if a scheduled-to task
tries to take the same spinlock.

There is no means like this by which a piece of code can determine
whether it can call schedule().  The pattern which we use in many many
places (most especially GFP_KERNEL/GFP_ATOMIC) is to pass a flag down
to callees telling them in some manner which context they were called from.

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: I2C from interrupt context?
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:57:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081110235734.f7666725.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3bpwrbjxs.fsf@maximus.localdomain>

On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:05:35 +0100 Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl> wrote:

> Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org> writes:
> 
> > The situation is far from perfect though. For one thing, I seem to
> > recall that Andrew Morton didn't like the approach taken in
> > i2c_transfer(). For another, i2c_smbus_xfer() was not yet modified so
> > at this point only I2C-level transactions can be non-sleeping,
> > SMBus-level transactions can't. But all this could be fixed by anyone
> > who cares about these specific issues.
> 
> Thanks, I'll look at it.

The problem (well: bug) is that in_atomic() returns false inside a
spinlock when CONFIG_PREEMPT=n.  The code as it stands can sleep
inside a spinlock, which is deadlockable if a scheduled-to task
tries to take the same spinlock.

There is no means like this by which a piece of code can determine
whether it can call schedule().  The pattern which we use in many many
places (most especially GFP_KERNEL/GFP_ATOMIC) is to pass a flag down
to callees telling them in some manner which context they were called from.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-11  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-06 23:44 I2C from interrupt context? Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found] ` <m3bpws8ln3.fsf-fiqtE+24Nu0B9AHHLWeGtNQXobZC6xk2@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-06 23:47   ` David Miller
2008-11-06 23:47     ` David Miller
     [not found]     ` <20081106.154754.02648408.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-07  9:11       ` Jean Delvare
2008-11-07  9:11         ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]         ` <20081107101118.286f3713-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-07 16:05           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-11-07 16:05             ` Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found]             ` <m3bpwrbjxs.fsf-fiqtE+24Nu0B9AHHLWeGtNQXobZC6xk2@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-11  7:57               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-11-11  7:57                 ` Andrew Morton

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