From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman"
<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Kirill Korotaev <dev-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Herbert Poetzl <herbert-dBHVzrDq9nF4Lj/PQRBjDg@public.gmane.org>,
Andrey Savochkin <saw-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>,
Subrata Modak
<subrata-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: CLONE_NEWUTS documentation
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:47:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081123224708.GC12687@hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <492464F8.8070101-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Quoting Michael Kerrisk (mtk.manpages-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org):
> Serge, Eric,
>
> Below is a patch to document the CLONE_NEWUTS flag that was
> added in 2.6.19.
Thanks for writing this.
> Could you please review and let me know of improvements
> or inaccuracies?
>
> By the way, does anyone know where the UTS name in the uname()
> API comes from? My best guess is that it's from Unix Timesharing
> System, but I don't know this for sure.
That sounds plausible - I've wondered myself and even googled a
bit, but not found an answer. I suppose we might need to ask
Linus, or check one of the git repos that goes back to the early
90s and see who created the struct.
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>
> diff --git a/man2/clone.2 b/man2/clone.2
> index 7212332..80f9caf 100644
> --- a/man2/clone.2
> +++ b/man2/clone.2
> @@ -341,6 +340,33 @@ configuration option and that the process be privileged
> This flag can't be specified in conjunction with
> .BR CLONE_THREAD .
> .TP
> +.BR CLONE_NEWUTS " (since Linux 2.6.19)"
> +If
> +.B CLONE_NEWUTS
> +is set, then create the process in a new UTS namespace.
And the new UTS namespace will initially be identical as the
parent - same hostname and domainname.
> +If this flag is not set, then (as with
> +.BR fork (2)),
> +the process is created in the same UTS namespace as
> +the calling process.
> +This flag is intended for the implementation of control groups.
I'm not sure Eric was sufficiently clear - this flag is intended
for the implementation of virtual server functionality and maybe
checkpoint/restart (though I'm not sure any apps will care about
being able to reset the hostname on restart :)
It's not that you have to call it 'virtual server functionality',
just that 'control groups' is definately not right.
Maybe 'lightweight containers'? "lightweight virtual servers'?
thanks,
-serge
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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
Andrey Savochkin <saw@sw.ru>,
Subrata Modak <subrata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: CLONE_NEWUTS documentation
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:47:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081123224708.GC12687@hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <492464F8.8070101@gmail.com>
Quoting Michael Kerrisk (mtk.manpages@googlemail.com):
> Serge, Eric,
>
> Below is a patch to document the CLONE_NEWUTS flag that was
> added in 2.6.19.
Thanks for writing this.
> Could you please review and let me know of improvements
> or inaccuracies?
>
> By the way, does anyone know where the UTS name in the uname()
> API comes from? My best guess is that it's from Unix Timesharing
> System, but I don't know this for sure.
That sounds plausible - I've wondered myself and even googled a
bit, but not found an answer. I suppose we might need to ask
Linus, or check one of the git repos that goes back to the early
90s and see who created the struct.
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>
> diff --git a/man2/clone.2 b/man2/clone.2
> index 7212332..80f9caf 100644
> --- a/man2/clone.2
> +++ b/man2/clone.2
> @@ -341,6 +340,33 @@ configuration option and that the process be privileged
> This flag can't be specified in conjunction with
> .BR CLONE_THREAD .
> .TP
> +.BR CLONE_NEWUTS " (since Linux 2.6.19)"
> +If
> +.B CLONE_NEWUTS
> +is set, then create the process in a new UTS namespace.
And the new UTS namespace will initially be identical as the
parent - same hostname and domainname.
> +If this flag is not set, then (as with
> +.BR fork (2)),
> +the process is created in the same UTS namespace as
> +the calling process.
> +This flag is intended for the implementation of control groups.
I'm not sure Eric was sufficiently clear - this flag is intended
for the implementation of virtual server functionality and maybe
checkpoint/restart (though I'm not sure any apps will care about
being able to reset the hostname on restart :)
It's not that you have to call it 'virtual server functionality',
just that 'control groups' is definately not right.
Maybe 'lightweight containers'? "lightweight virtual servers'?
thanks,
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-23 22:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-19 19:11 CLONE_NEWUTS documentation Michael Kerrisk
2008-11-19 19:11 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <492464F8.8070101-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-20 1:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-20 1:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-20 11:51 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-11-23 22:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2008-11-23 22:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20081123224708.GC12687-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-24 23:14 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-11-24 23:14 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <cfd18e0f0811241514l121ecdb9l3e424f45df78e5b8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-24 23:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-11-24 23:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-05 9:35 Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-05 12:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-06 6:36 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-06 12:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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