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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmscan: skip freeing memory from zones with lots free
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:29:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081129122901.6243d2fa.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49319109.7030904@redhat.com>

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:59:21 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:

> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:41:34 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:58:32 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Will this new patch reintroduce the problem which
> >>>>> 26e4931632352e3c95a61edac22d12ebb72038fe fixed?
> >> No, that problem is already taken care of by the fact that
> >> active pages always get deactivated in the current VM,
> >> regardless of whether or not they were referenced.
> > 
> > err, sorry, that was the wrong commit. 
> > 26e4931632352e3c95a61edac22d12ebb72038fe _introduced_ the problem, as
> > predicted in the changelog.
> > 
> > 265b2b8cac1774f5f30c88e0ab8d0bcf794ef7b3 later fixed it up.
> 
> The patch I sent in this thread does not do any baling out,
> it only skips zones where the number of free pages is more
> than 4 times zone->pages_high.

But that will have the same effect as baling out.  Moreso, in fact.

> Equal pressure is still applied to the other zones.
> 
> This should not be a problem since we do not enter direct
> reclaim unless the free pages in every zone in our zonelist
> are below zone->pages_low.
> 
> Zone skipping is only done by tasks that have been in the
> direct reclaim code for a long time.

>From 265b2b8cac1774f5f30c88e0ab8d0bcf794ef7b3:

    We currently have a problem with the balancing of reclaim
    between zones: much more reclaim happens against highmem than
    against lowmem.

This problem will be reintroduced, will it not?

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmscan: skip freeing memory from zones with lots free
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:29:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081129122901.6243d2fa.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49319109.7030904@redhat.com>

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:59:21 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:

> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:41:34 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:58:32 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Will this new patch reintroduce the problem which
> >>>>> 26e4931632352e3c95a61edac22d12ebb72038fe fixed?
> >> No, that problem is already taken care of by the fact that
> >> active pages always get deactivated in the current VM,
> >> regardless of whether or not they were referenced.
> > 
> > err, sorry, that was the wrong commit. 
> > 26e4931632352e3c95a61edac22d12ebb72038fe _introduced_ the problem, as
> > predicted in the changelog.
> > 
> > 265b2b8cac1774f5f30c88e0ab8d0bcf794ef7b3 later fixed it up.
> 
> The patch I sent in this thread does not do any baling out,
> it only skips zones where the number of free pages is more
> than 4 times zone->pages_high.

But that will have the same effect as baling out.  Moreso, in fact.

> Equal pressure is still applied to the other zones.
> 
> This should not be a problem since we do not enter direct
> reclaim unless the free pages in every zone in our zonelist
> are below zone->pages_low.
> 
> Zone skipping is only done by tasks that have been in the
> direct reclaim code for a long time.

>From 265b2b8cac1774f5f30c88e0ab8d0bcf794ef7b3:

    We currently have a problem with the balancing of reclaim
    between zones: much more reclaim happens against highmem than
    against lowmem.

This problem will be reintroduced, will it not?

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-29 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-28 11:08 [PATCH] vmscan: skip freeing memory from zones with lots free Rik van Riel
2008-11-28 11:08 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-28 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-28 11:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-28 22:43 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-11-28 22:43   ` Johannes Weiner
2008-11-29  7:19 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29  7:19   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 10:55   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-11-29 10:55     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-08 13:00     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-08 13:00       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-08 13:03       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-08 13:03         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-08 17:48         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-08 17:48           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-12-10  5:07           ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-10  5:07             ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-08 20:25         ` Rik van Riel
2008-12-08 20:25           ` Rik van Riel
2008-12-10  5:09           ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-10  5:09             ` Nick Piggin
2008-12-12  5:50           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-11-29 16:47   ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 16:47     ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 17:45     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 17:45       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 17:58       ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 17:58         ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 18:26         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 18:26           ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 18:41           ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 18:41             ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 18:51             ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 18:51               ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 18:59               ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 18:59                 ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 20:29                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-11-29 20:29                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 21:35                   ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 21:35                     ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 21:57                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 21:57                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 22:07                       ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-29 22:07                         ` Rik van Riel

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