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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>,
	linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	Alan Piszcz <ap@solarrain.com>xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: 12x performance drop on md/linux+sw raid1 due to barriers [xfs]
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:36:17 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081214233617.GD32301@disturbed> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4943F37B.8080405@sandeen.net>

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:40:11AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> 
> > At the moment it appears to me that disabling write cache may often give 
> > more performance than using barriers. And this doesn't match my 
> > expectation of write barriers as a feature that enhances performance. 
> 
> Why do you have that expectation?  I've never seen barriers advertised
> as enhancing performance.  :)
> 
> I do wonder why barriers on, write cache off is so slow; I'd have
> thought the barriers were a no-op.  Maybe I'm missing something.

Barriers still enforce ordering in this case, so it affects the
elevator algorithm....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com, Alan Piszcz <ap@solarrain.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.orgxfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: 12x performance drop on md/linux+sw raid1 due to barriers [xfs]
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:36:17 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081214233617.GD32301@disturbed> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4943F37B.8080405@sandeen.net>

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:40:11AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> 
> > At the moment it appears to me that disabling write cache may often give 
> > more performance than using barriers. And this doesn't match my 
> > expectation of write barriers as a feature that enhances performance. 
> 
> Why do you have that expectation?  I've never seen barriers advertised
> as enhancing performance.  :)
> 
> I do wonder why barriers on, write cache off is so slow; I'd have
> thought the barriers were a no-op.  Maybe I'm missing something.

Barriers still enforce ordering in this case, so it affects the
elevator algorithm....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-14 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-06 14:28 12x performance drop on md/linux+sw raid1 due to barriers [xfs] Justin Piszcz
2008-12-06 14:28 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-12-06 15:36 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-12-06 20:35   ` Redeeman
2008-12-06 20:35     ` Redeeman
2008-12-13 12:54   ` Justin Piszcz
2008-12-13 12:54     ` Justin Piszcz
2008-12-13 17:26     ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-13 17:26       ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-13 17:40       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-12-13 17:40         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-12-14  3:31         ` Redeeman
2008-12-14  3:31           ` Redeeman
2008-12-14 14:02           ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-14 14:02             ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-14 18:12             ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-14 18:12               ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-14 22:02               ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-14 22:02                 ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-15 18:48                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-15 22:50                   ` Peter Grandi
2009-02-18 22:14                     ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-02-18 22:24                       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-18 23:09                       ` Ralf Liebenow
2009-02-18 23:19                         ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-20 19:19                       ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-15 22:38                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-15 22:38                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-16  9:39                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-16  9:39                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-16 20:57                     ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-16 23:14                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-16 23:14                       ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-17 21:40                 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-12-17 21:40                   ` Bill Davidsen
2008-12-18  8:20                   ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-12-18 23:33                     ` Bill Davidsen
2008-12-21 19:16                     ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-22 13:19                       ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-12-22 13:19                         ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-12-18 22:26                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-18 22:26                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-20 14:06               ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-14 18:35             ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-14 18:35               ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-14 17:49           ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-14 17:49             ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-14 23:36         ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2008-12-14 23:36           ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-14 23:55           ` Eric Sandeen
2008-12-13 18:01       ` David Lethe
2008-12-13 18:01         ` David Lethe
2008-12-06 18:42 ` Peter Grandi
2008-12-11  0:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-12-11  0:20   ` Bill Davidsen
2008-12-11  9:18   ` Justin Piszcz
2008-12-11  9:18     ` Justin Piszcz
2008-12-11  9:24     ` Justin Piszcz
2008-12-11  9:24       ` Justin Piszcz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-14 18:33 Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-14 18:33 ` Martin Steigerwald

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