From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] AF_VMCHANNEL address family for guest<->host communication.
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:57:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081216065727.GD13794@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081215234511.GA24579@ioremap.net>
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 02:45:11AM +0300, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> Hi Anthony.
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 05:01:14PM -0600, Anthony Liguori (anthony@codemonkey.ws) wrote:
> > Yes, and I went down the road of using a dedicated network device and
> > using raw ethernet as the protocol. The thing that killed that was the
> > fact that it's not reliable. You need something like TCP to add
> > reliability.
> >
> > But that's a lot of work and a bit backwards. Use a unreliable
> > transport but use TCP on top of it to get reliability. Our link
> > (virtio) is inherently reliable so why not just expose a reliable
> > interface to userspace?
>
> I removed original mail and did not check archive, but doesn't rx/tx
> queues of the virtio device have limited size? I do hope they have,
> which means that either your network drops packets or blocks.
>
It blocks.
> Another approach is to implement that virtio backend with netlink based
> userspace interface (like using connector or genetlink). This does not
> differ too much from what you have with special socket family, but at
> least it does not duplicate existing functionality of
> userspace-kernelspace communications.
>
I implemented vmchannel using connector initially (the downside is that
message can be dropped). Is this more expectable for upstream? The
implementation was 300 lines of code.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-16 6:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-14 11:50 [PATCH] AF_VMCHANNEL address family for guest<->host communication Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 12:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-14 12:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 12:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 12:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-15 6:44 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-15 8:27 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 8:27 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-15 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 17:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-15 17:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-15 18:26 ` Itamar Heim
2008-12-15 18:26 ` Itamar Heim
2008-12-15 18:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 18:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 22:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-15 23:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 23:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-15 23:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-15 23:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-15 23:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-16 0:01 ` Dor Laor
2008-12-16 0:01 ` Dor Laor
2008-12-15 23:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 22:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-15 19:43 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 20:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 20:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 22:29 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 23:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 23:10 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 23:10 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 23:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16 2:55 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-16 2:55 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-15 23:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 23:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-12-15 23:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-12-15 23:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-15 23:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-16 6:57 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-16 6:57 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2008-12-16 21:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-16 21:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-16 23:20 ` Dor Laor
2008-12-16 23:20 ` Dor Laor
2008-12-17 14:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-17 14:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-18 12:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-18 12:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-15 23:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 22:29 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 19:43 ` David Miller
2008-12-15 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 6:44 ` David Miller
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2008-12-14 11:50 Gleb Natapov
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