From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
sfr@canb.auug.org.au, trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no,
steved@redhat.com, rwheeler@redhat.com, bfields@fieldses.org,
nfsv4@linux-nfs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Pull request for FS-Cache, including NFS patches
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:44:43 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081218184443.d73f5431.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7633.1229653644@redhat.com>
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:27:24 +0000 David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Are any distros pushing for this? Or shipping it? If so, are they
> > able to weigh in and help us with this quite difficult decision?
>
> We (Red Hat) have shipped it in RHEL-5 and some Fedora releases. Doing so is
> quite an effort, though, precisely because the code is not yet upstream. We
> have customers using it and are gaining more customers who want it. There
> even appear to be CentOS users using it (or at least complaining when it
> breaks).
That's useful news.
>
> I don't know what will convince you. I've given you theoretical reasons why
> caching ought to be useful; I've backed up the ones I've implemented with
> benchmarks; I've given you examples of what our customers are doing with it or
> want to do with it.
Was that information captured/maintained somewhere? It really is important (I
think) for something of this magnitude.
> Please help me understand what else you want.
I want to be able to have an answer when someone asks me "why was all that
stuff merged". One which I can believe.
> Do you perhaps want the netfs maintainers (such as Trond) to say that it's
> necessary?
Of course, their opinions (and supporting explanations) would be valuable.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: sfr@canb.auug.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
nfsv4@linux-nfs.org, steved@redhat.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, rwheeler@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Pull request for FS-Cache, including NFS patches
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:44:43 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081218184443.d73f5431.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7633.1229653644@redhat.com>
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:27:24 +0000 David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Are any distros pushing for this? Or shipping it? If so, are they
> > able to weigh in and help us with this quite difficult decision?
>
> We (Red Hat) have shipped it in RHEL-5 and some Fedora releases. Doing so is
> quite an effort, though, precisely because the code is not yet upstream. We
> have customers using it and are gaining more customers who want it. There
> even appear to be CentOS users using it (or at least complaining when it
> breaks).
That's useful news.
>
> I don't know what will convince you. I've given you theoretical reasons why
> caching ought to be useful; I've backed up the ones I've implemented with
> benchmarks; I've given you examples of what our customers are doing with it or
> want to do with it.
Was that information captured/maintained somewhere? It really is important (I
think) for something of this magnitude.
> Please help me understand what else you want.
I want to be able to have an answer when someone asks me "why was all that
stuff merged". One which I can believe.
> Do you perhaps want the netfs maintainers (such as Trond) to say that it's
> necessary?
Of course, their opinions (and supporting explanations) would be valuable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-19 2:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-18 0:30 Pull request for FS-Cache, including NFS patches David Howells
2008-12-18 0:30 ` David Howells
2008-12-18 11:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-18 14:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-18 20:36 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-18 20:36 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-18 23:07 ` Bernd Schubert
2008-12-18 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-18 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-19 0:05 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 3:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 4:01 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-29 4:01 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-29 14:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-29 14:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-29 14:54 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-12-29 14:54 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-12-29 23:05 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-29 23:05 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-30 18:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-30 18:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-30 22:15 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-30 22:15 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-30 22:36 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-30 22:36 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-30 23:00 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-30 23:00 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-30 23:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-30 23:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-31 11:15 ` David Howells
2009-01-01 4:11 ` Muntz, Daniel
2009-01-01 4:11 ` Muntz, Daniel
2009-01-01 8:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-01 8:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-01 18:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-12-31 9:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-31 9:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-29 15:01 ` David Howells
2008-12-29 15:01 ` David Howells
2008-12-29 4:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-29 4:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-29 5:26 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 5:26 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 15:04 ` David Howells
2008-12-29 14:26 ` David Howells
2008-12-29 14:26 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 2:27 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 2:27 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 2:44 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-12-19 2:44 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-19 3:10 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-12-19 12:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-19 12:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-12-19 13:32 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 13:32 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 16:48 ` Gabor Gombas
2008-12-19 13:03 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 3:45 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-19 4:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-12-19 4:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-12-19 13:22 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 13:22 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 13:20 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 18:08 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-19 18:08 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-19 18:24 ` David Howells
2008-12-19 19:53 ` Bryan Henderson
2008-12-20 1:20 ` David Howells
2008-12-20 1:20 ` David Howells
2008-12-20 6:05 ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-20 6:05 ` Muntz, Daniel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-20 6:06 Muntz, Daniel
2008-12-20 6:06 ` Muntz, Daniel
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