From: "Hans J. Koch" <hjk-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Hans J. Koch" <hjk-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
Edward Estabrook
<edward.estabrook.lkml-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
gregkh-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org,
edward.estabrook-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
edward_estabrook-+2HdxjxtzLdBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Userspace I/O (UIO): Add support for userspace DMA (corrected)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:20:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081225152014.GA3079@local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081225123004.GA13640-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:33:41AM +0100, Hans J. Koch wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:51:30PM -0800, Edward Estabrook wrote:
> > > From: Edward Estabrook <Edward_Estabrook-+2HdxjxtzLdBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
> > >
> > > Here is a patch that adds the ability to dynamically allocate and use
> > > coherent DMA
> > > from userspace by extending the Userspace IO driver. This patch applies against
> > > 2.6.28-rc6.
> >
> > Hi Edward,
> > sorry I didn't answer sooner. It was not lack of interest in your work, I
> > just had to think about it (and had quite a lot of other work, too).
> > I consider your idea of having DMA coherent memory allocatable from userspace
> > a valid demand. However, the interface should be implemented differently.
> >
> > As a general requirement, all information you need to pass to userspace has
> > to go through sysfs. This is a UIO design decision and should not be changed
> > lightly. Please don't fill information into the allocated memory.
> >
> > We shouldn't mix dynamically allocated DMA regions with the already existing
> > static memory mappings. There should be an extra directory, maybe called
> > /sys/class/uio/uioN/dyn_dma_mem/ containing information about this kind of
> > DMA memory. This directory would not exist by default, it's only created if
> > some user actually allocates such memory.
> >
> > In the UIO core, these mappings should be handled with a dynamic list, not
> > a static array. The number of possible mappings has to be limited to a
> > sensible maximum, maybe 50 or 100. The code handling the existing static
> > mappings could mostly stay as-is.
>
> I like that idea of a seperate directory in sysfs. How about allocating
> DMA memory by creating files in this directory.
Nice idea, but AFAICT sysfs doesn't support creating files from userspace.
> The memory itself can be
> accessed via mmap() and the dma address can be gathered using read().
> When a file is closed the dma memory is unmapped.
> This would work great as long as /sys/class/uio/uioN/ belongs only to
> one physical device.
That's guaranteed.
Thanks,
Hans
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From: "Hans J. Koch" <hjk@linutronix.de>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: "Hans J. Koch" <hjk@linutronix.de>,
Edward Estabrook <edward.estabrook.lkml@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
gregkh@suse.de, edward.estabrook@gmail.com,
edward_estabrook@agilent.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Userspace I/O (UIO): Add support for userspace DMA (corrected)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:20:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081225152014.GA3079@local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081225123004.GA13640@8bytes.org>
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:33:41AM +0100, Hans J. Koch wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:51:30PM -0800, Edward Estabrook wrote:
> > > From: Edward Estabrook <Edward_Estabrook@agilent.com>
> > >
> > > Here is a patch that adds the ability to dynamically allocate and use
> > > coherent DMA
> > > from userspace by extending the Userspace IO driver. This patch applies against
> > > 2.6.28-rc6.
> >
> > Hi Edward,
> > sorry I didn't answer sooner. It was not lack of interest in your work, I
> > just had to think about it (and had quite a lot of other work, too).
> > I consider your idea of having DMA coherent memory allocatable from userspace
> > a valid demand. However, the interface should be implemented differently.
> >
> > As a general requirement, all information you need to pass to userspace has
> > to go through sysfs. This is a UIO design decision and should not be changed
> > lightly. Please don't fill information into the allocated memory.
> >
> > We shouldn't mix dynamically allocated DMA regions with the already existing
> > static memory mappings. There should be an extra directory, maybe called
> > /sys/class/uio/uioN/dyn_dma_mem/ containing information about this kind of
> > DMA memory. This directory would not exist by default, it's only created if
> > some user actually allocates such memory.
> >
> > In the UIO core, these mappings should be handled with a dynamic list, not
> > a static array. The number of possible mappings has to be limited to a
> > sensible maximum, maybe 50 or 100. The code handling the existing static
> > mappings could mostly stay as-is.
>
> I like that idea of a seperate directory in sysfs. How about allocating
> DMA memory by creating files in this directory.
Nice idea, but AFAICT sysfs doesn't support creating files from userspace.
> The memory itself can be
> accessed via mmap() and the dma address can be gathered using read().
> When a file is closed the dma memory is unmapped.
> This would work great as long as /sys/class/uio/uioN/ belongs only to
> one physical device.
That's guaranteed.
Thanks,
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-25 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-04 1:51 [PATCH 1/1] Userspace I/O (UIO): Add support for userspace DMA (corrected) Edward Estabrook
2008-12-04 1:51 ` Edward Estabrook
[not found] ` <208aa0f00812031751n27a75d21h8747054651639463-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-04 4:17 ` Greg KH
2008-12-04 4:17 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20081204041739.GA16329-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-04 5:34 ` Edward Estabrook
2008-12-04 5:34 ` Edward Estabrook
2008-12-04 19:40 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-12-04 19:40 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-12-06 0:16 ` Edward Estabrook
2008-12-06 0:16 ` Edward Estabrook
2008-12-11 0:33 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-12-11 0:33 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-12-25 12:30 ` Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <20081225123004.GA13640-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-25 15:20 ` Hans J. Koch [this message]
2008-12-25 15:20 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-12-27 0:49 ` Andreas Bombe
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