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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/4] memcg: don't call res_counter_uncharge when obsolete
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:15:57 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090115044557.GG21516@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090115134114.dba6b83a.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-01-15 13:41:14]:

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:47:50 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > * KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-01-15 12:24:16]:
> 
> > > But I don't like -EBUSY ;)
> > > 
> > > When rmdir() returns -EBUSY even if there are no (visible) children and tasks,
> > > our customer will take kdump and send it to me "please explain this kernel bug"
> > > 
> > > I'm sure it will happen ;)
> > >
> > 
> > OK, but memory.stat can show why the group is busy and with
> > move_to_parent() such issues should not occur right? I'll relook at
> > the code. Thanks for your input.
> > 
> 
> There was a design choice at swap_cgroup.
> 
> At rmdir, there may be used swap entry in memcg. (mem->memsw.usage can be > 0)
>   1. update all records in swap cgroup
>   2. just ignore account from swap, we can treat then at swap-in.
> 
> I implemented "2" by refcnt.
> 
> To do "1", we have to scan all used swap_cgroup but I don't want to scan all
> swap_cgroup entry at rmdir. It's heavy job.
> (*) To reduce memory usage by swap_cgroup, swap_cgroup just have a pointer to memcg
> (**) I implemented swap_cgroup as statically allocated array because I don't want
>     any dynamic memory allocation at swap-out and want to avoid unnecessary memory
>     usage.

Fair enough, but I don't like that we don't have any checks for

If parent still has children, parent should not go away. The
problem that Daisuke-San is seeing.

-- 
	Balbir

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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 5/4] memcg: don't call res_counter_uncharge when obsolete
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:15:57 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090115044557.GG21516@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090115134114.dba6b83a.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-01-15 13:41:14]:

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:47:50 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > * KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-01-15 12:24:16]:
> 
> > > But I don't like -EBUSY ;)
> > > 
> > > When rmdir() returns -EBUSY even if there are no (visible) children and tasks,
> > > our customer will take kdump and send it to me "please explain this kernel bug"
> > > 
> > > I'm sure it will happen ;)
> > >
> > 
> > OK, but memory.stat can show why the group is busy and with
> > move_to_parent() such issues should not occur right? I'll relook at
> > the code. Thanks for your input.
> > 
> 
> There was a design choice at swap_cgroup.
> 
> At rmdir, there may be used swap entry in memcg. (mem->memsw.usage can be > 0)
>   1. update all records in swap cgroup
>   2. just ignore account from swap, we can treat then at swap-in.
> 
> I implemented "2" by refcnt.
> 
> To do "1", we have to scan all used swap_cgroup but I don't want to scan all
> swap_cgroup entry at rmdir. It's heavy job.
> (*) To reduce memory usage by swap_cgroup, swap_cgroup just have a pointer to memcg
> (**) I implemented swap_cgroup as statically allocated array because I don't want
>     any dynamic memory allocation at swap-out and want to avoid unnecessary memory
>     usage.

Fair enough, but I don't like that we don't have any checks for

If parent still has children, parent should not go away. The
problem that Daisuke-San is seeing.

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-15  4:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-13  9:45 [PATCH -rc] some fixes for memcg Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:45 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:47 ` [PATCH 1/4] memcg: fix mem_cgroup_get_reclaim_stat_from_page Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:47   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:48 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: fix error path of mem_cgroup_move_parent Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:48   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg: fix hierarchical reclaim Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:49   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:50 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: make oom less frequently Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-13  9:50   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-14  8:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/4] memcg: don't call res_counter_uncharge when obsolete Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-14  8:51   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-14 13:43   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-14 13:43     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  1:03     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  1:03       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  2:00       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  2:00         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  2:14         ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  2:14           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  4:38           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  4:38             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  5:14             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  5:14               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  5:49               ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-15  5:49                 ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-15  6:39             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  6:39               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  7:45             ` [RFC][PATCH] memcg: get/put parents at create/free Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  7:45               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  7:54               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  7:54                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  8:13                 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  8:13                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  8:23                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  8:23                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  8:51                     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  8:51                       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-15  9:10                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  9:10                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-16  1:50                         ` [BUGFIX][PATCH] " Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-16  1:50                           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-16  2:12                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-16  2:12                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-16  2:17                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-16  2:17                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-16  2:25                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-16  2:25                                 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-16  4:22                           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-16  4:22                             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-01-16  4:31                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-16  4:31                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-14 13:55   ` [RFC][PATCH 5/4] memcg: don't call res_counter_uncharge when obsolete Balbir Singh
2009-01-14 13:55     ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-15  2:48     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  2:48       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  3:08       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  3:08         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  3:24     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  3:24       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  4:17       ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-15  4:17         ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-15  4:41         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  4:41           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  4:45           ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-01-15  4:45             ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-15  4:54             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  4:54               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  4:52         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  4:52           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  5:17           ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-15  5:17             ` Balbir Singh
2009-01-15  5:27             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-15  5:27               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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