[Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[C.W. Betts]

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What would be the best sound card to select for use with the emulated  
G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the Debian  
Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two options  
when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I chose  
PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.

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[Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[C.W. Betts]

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What would be the best sound card to select for use with the emulated  
G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the Debian  
Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two options  
when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I chose  
PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[Paul Brook]

On Monday 19 January 2009, C.W. Betts wrote:
> What would be the best sound card to select for use with the emulated
> G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the Debian
> Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two options
> when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I chose
> PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.

I'm pretty sure that machine has PCI, so it should be a small amount of 
hacking to make it use any of the PCI audio devices.

Of course whether they'll actually work on a big-endian machine is a different 
question.

Paul

Re: [Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[C.W. Betts]

I tried using the AC97 sound card, but ALSA didn't detect it.
On Jan 18, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Paul Brook wrote:

> On Monday 19 January 2009, C.W. Betts wrote:
>> What would be the best sound card to select for use with the emulated
>> G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the Debian
>> Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two options
>> when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I chose
>> PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.
>
> I'm pretty sure that machine has PCI, so it should be a small amount  
> of
> hacking to make it use any of the PCI audio devices.
>
> Of course whether they'll actually work on a big-endian machine is a  
> different
> question.
>
> Paul
>
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[C.W. Betts]

I tried using the AC97 sound card, but ALSA didn't detect it.
On Jan 18, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Paul Brook wrote:

> On Monday 19 January 2009, C.W. Betts wrote:
>> What would be the best sound card to select for use with the emulated
>> G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the Debian
>> Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two options
>> when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I chose
>> PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.
>
> I'm pretty sure that machine has PCI, so it should be a small amount  
> of
> hacking to make it use any of the PCI audio devices.
>
> Of course whether they'll actually work on a big-endian machine is a  
> different
> question.
>
> Paul
>
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[François Revol]

> >> What would be the best sound card to select for use with the
> > > emulated
> >> G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the
> > > Debian
> >> Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two
> > > options
> >> when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I
> > > chose
> >> PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that machine has PCI, so it should be a small
> > amount
> > of
> > hacking to make it use any of the PCI audio devices.
> >
> > Of course whether they'll actually work on a big-endian machine is
> > a
> > different
> > question.
> >
> I tried using the AC97 sound card, but ALSA didn't detect it.

NetBSD FAQ suggests Ensoniq AudioPCI as the most tested:
http://www.netbsd.org/ports/macppc/faq.html#peripherals

François.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[Paul Brook]

On Monday 19 January 2009, C.W. Betts wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure that machine has PCI, so it should be a small amount
> > of hacking to make it use any of the PCI audio devices.
>
> I tried using the AC97 sound card, but ALSA didn't detect it. 

Are you sure it actually got added? "small amount of hacking" means you have 
to make the -soundhw option actually do something the hearthrow machine :-)

Paul

Re: [Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[François Revol]

> What would be the best sound card to select for use with the emulated
> G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the Debian
> Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two options
> when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I chose
> PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.

The PCI Mac clone I have here has a Crystal CS4217-KL chip, not sure if
there are any PCI card using it...

The Cirrus website (who bought Crystal) says it can be replaced by
CS4212, but it also has been EOLed.
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/detail/EOL91.html
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/detail/EOL39.html
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/index.html

Searching for either in lxr.linux.no doesn't find anything
nor in http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Special:Search?search=cs4212&go=Go
nor does grepping the OSSv4 sources, so unless it's compatible with a
CS423x it's not documented as such.

Maybe it's
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-powermac


François.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[François Revol]

> > What would be the best sound card to select for use with the
> > emulated
> > G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the
> > Debian
> > Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two
> > options
> > when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I
> > chose
> > PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.
>
> The PCI Mac clone I have here has a Crystal CS4217-KL chip, not sure
> if
> there are any PCI card using it...
>
> The Cirrus website (who bought Crystal) says it can be replaced by
> CS4212, but it also has been EOLed.
> http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/detail/EOL91.html
> http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/detail/EOL39.html
> http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/index.html

Just checked on my clone, it's not listed at all in the PCI devices in
the Apple system info app, so it's likely an obscure ISA codec.

François.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Sound on a Power Mac?

[Aurelien Jarno]

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 09:36:48PM +0100, François Revol wrote:
> > > What would be the best sound card to select for use with the
> > > emulated
> > > G3 Beige computer?  I'm trying to get sound working using the
> > > Debian
> > > Etch PowerPC image provided by Aurelien Jarno.  It shows two
> > > options
> > > when I run alsaconf: PowerMac and Legacy. It complained when I
> > > chose
> > > PowerMac, and I don't know if the power mac supports ISA cards.
> >
> > The PCI Mac clone I have here has a Crystal CS4217-KL chip, not sure
> > if
> > there are any PCI card using it...
> >
> > The Cirrus website (who bought Crystal) says it can be replaced by
> > CS4212, but it also has been EOLed.
> > http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/detail/EOL91.html
> > http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/detail/EOL39.html
> > http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/eol/index.html
> 
> Just checked on my clone, it's not listed at all in the PCI devices in
> the Apple system info app, so it's likely an obscure ISA codec.
> 

It is part of the MacIO chipset, which is listed as a PCI device.

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