RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Dmitry Baikov]

Hello,

recently I upgraded firmware for my RME HDSP (Cardbus + Multiface II)
to recent version,
to be able to use it under WinXP 64, since there's no 64-bit windows
driver for old hdsp firmware.
And the results under linux are surprising:
My main OS is Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and there hdspmixer fails with the message:

Card 1 : RME Hammerfall DSP at 0x130000000, irq 18
Uninitialized HDSP card found.
Use hdsploader to upload configuration data to the card.
No Hammerfall DSP card found.

Trying to run hdsploader gives:

Card 1 : RME Hammerfall DSP at 0x130000000, irq 18
Upload firmware for card hw:1
Hwdep ioctl error on card hw:1 : Input/output error.

dmesg:
Hammerfall-DSP: wait for FIFO status <= 0 failed after 30 iterations

This happens even if I boot into winxp first to initialize multiface,
then reboot into linux and do not run hdsploader.

BUT:
under 32-bit ubuntu 8.10 with the same kernel 2.6.27-11-generic and
the same version of alsa-*: 1.0.17-0ubuntu1,
everything works fine both with cold boot + hdsploader and winxp ->
reboot-> no hdsploader.

Regards,
Dmitry.

Re: RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Florian Faber]

Dmitry,

> under 32-bit ubuntu 8.10 with the same kernel 2.6.27-11-generic and
> the same version of alsa-*: 1.0.17-0ubuntu1,
> everything works fine both with cold boot + hdsploader and winxp ->
> reboot-> no hdsploader.

It works fine with 64 bit linux, I have pure 64 bit machines and all hdsp(e) 
cards work as they should. Must be something else then.


Flo
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Re: RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Dmitry Baikov]

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Florian Faber <faber@faberman.de> wrote:
> Dmitry,
>
>> under 32-bit ubuntu 8.10 with the same kernel 2.6.27-11-generic and
>> the same version of alsa-*: 1.0.17-0ubuntu1,
>> everything works fine both with cold boot + hdsploader and winxp ->
>> reboot-> no hdsploader.
>
> It works fine with 64 bit linux, I have pure 64 bit machines and all hdsp(e)
> cards work as they should. Must be something else then.

Which distribution/kernel(s) do you use?

I just revived my 64-bit Gentoo partition, and vanilla 2.6.28.2 says
No Multiface or Digiface found, disabling the card.


Dmitry.

Re: RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Tim Blechmann]

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>>> under 32-bit ubuntu 8.10 with the same kernel 2.6.27-11-generic and
>>> the same version of alsa-*: 1.0.17-0ubuntu1,
>>> everything works fine both with cold boot + hdsploader and winxp ->
>>> reboot-> no hdsploader.
>> It works fine with 64 bit linux, I have pure 64 bit machines and all hdsp(e)
>> cards work as they should. Must be something else then.
> 
> Which distribution/kernel(s) do you use?
> 
> I just revived my 64-bit Gentoo partition, and vanilla 2.6.28.2 says
> No Multiface or Digiface found, disabling the card.

i have the same issue with my hdsp on a 64-bit kernel, using the
standard firmware (whatever is shipped with alsa). once i tried to debug
this issue, finding, that the card actually has the register value that
the card is not connected, although it is.

usually, unloading/reloading the kernel module should resolve it,
though. maybe the hardware is not initialized correctly? are there some
more detailed information about the hdsp hardware available or did the
developers of the kernel module receive some specification under nda
restrictions?

tim

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Re: RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Florian Faber]

On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:56:34 Tim Blechmann wrote:
> >>> under 32-bit ubuntu 8.10 with the same kernel 2.6.27-11-generic and
> >>> the same version of alsa-*: 1.0.17-0ubuntu1,
> >>> everything works fine both with cold boot + hdsploader and winxp ->
> >>> reboot-> no hdsploader.
> >>
> >> It works fine with 64 bit linux, I have pure 64 bit machines and all
> >> hdsp(e) cards work as they should. Must be something else then.
> >
> > Which distribution/kernel(s) do you use?
> >
> > I just revived my 64-bit Gentoo partition, and vanilla 2.6.28.2 says
> > No Multiface or Digiface found, disabling the card.
>
> i have the same issue with my hdsp on a 64-bit kernel, using the
> standard firmware (whatever is shipped with alsa). once i tried to debug
> this issue, finding, that the card actually has the register value that
> the card is not connected, although it is.
>
> usually, unloading/reloading the kernel module should resolve it,
> though. maybe the hardware is not initialized correctly? are there some
> more detailed information about the hdsp hardware available or did the
> developers of the kernel module receive some specification under nda
> restrictions?

Ok, you two, please mail me the relevant contents of dmesg and the contents 
of /proc/asound/cardX/hdsp together with a 'uname -a'.

All I can say is that it works fine with all 2.6 kernels so far and I have 
never used anything else but 64bit.


Flo
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Re: RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Florian Faber]

Dmitry,

> I just revived my 64-bit Gentoo partition, and vanilla 2.6.28.2 says
> No Multiface or Digiface found, disabling the card.

Ok, you are using a notebook. I have seen problems with notebooks when the 
period between powering up the cardbus socket and trying to access the card 
wasn't long enough, the interface card isn't initialized fast enough.

Please try the following: Go to line 5059 in /sound/pci/rme9652/hdsp.c and 
change the line
	ssleep(2);
to
	ssleep(5);

Compile it and try again.


Flo
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Re: RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Dmitry Baikov]

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Florian Faber <faber@faberman.de> wrote:
> Dmitry,
>
>> I just revived my 64-bit Gentoo partition, and vanilla 2.6.28.2 says
>> No Multiface or Digiface found, disabling the card.
>
> Ok, you are using a notebook. I have seen problems with notebooks when the
> period between powering up the cardbus socket and trying to access the card
> wasn't long enough, the interface card isn't initialized fast enough.
Actually, this is desktop with pci-pcmcia adapter card.
I just tried it in my laptop with 64-bit Ubuntu 8.10 and everything
works perfectly.

> Please try the following: Go to line 5059 in /sound/pci/rme9652/hdsp.c and
> change the line
>        ssleep(2);
> to
>        ssleep(5);
>
> Compile it and try again.

It waits for 5 seconds according to dmesg, but the result is the same:
card disabled.

The summary of my experiments so far:
everywhere Ubuntu is 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11

laptop + cardbus + 64-bit ubuntu: WORKS

desktop + pci-pcmcia adapter:
ubuntu 32: WORKS
ubuntu 64: can't upload firmware
gentoo 64 + vanilla kernel 2.6.28.2: can't recognize external box,
disables the card.

Dmitry.

Re: RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Takashi Iwai]

At Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:58:41 +0300,
Dmitry Baikov wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Florian Faber <faber@faberman.de> wrote:
> > Dmitry,
> >
> >> I just revived my 64-bit Gentoo partition, and vanilla 2.6.28.2 says
> >> No Multiface or Digiface found, disabling the card.
> >
> > Ok, you are using a notebook. I have seen problems with notebooks when the
> > period between powering up the cardbus socket and trying to access the card
> > wasn't long enough, the interface card isn't initialized fast enough.
> Actually, this is desktop with pci-pcmcia adapter card.
> I just tried it in my laptop with 64-bit Ubuntu 8.10 and everything
> works perfectly.
> 
> > Please try the following: Go to line 5059 in /sound/pci/rme9652/hdsp.c and
> > change the line
> >        ssleep(2);
> > to
> >        ssleep(5);
> >
> > Compile it and try again.
> 
> It waits for 5 seconds according to dmesg, but the result is the same:
> card disabled.
> 
> The summary of my experiments so far:
> everywhere Ubuntu is 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11
> 
> laptop + cardbus + 64-bit ubuntu: WORKS
> 
> desktop + pci-pcmcia adapter:
> ubuntu 32: WORKS
> ubuntu 64: can't upload firmware
> gentoo 64 + vanilla kernel 2.6.28.2: can't recognize external box,
> disables the card.

Increasing HDSP_SHORT_WAIT doesn't help, too?


Takashi

Re: RME HDSP rev 37 does not work on 64-bit linux

[Dmitry Baikov]

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> At Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:58:41 +0300,
> Dmitry Baikov wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Florian Faber <faber@faberman.de> wrote:
>> > Dmitry,
>> >
>> >> I just revived my 64-bit Gentoo partition, and vanilla 2.6.28.2 says
>> >> No Multiface or Digiface found, disabling the card.
>> >
>> > Ok, you are using a notebook. I have seen problems with notebooks when the
>> > period between powering up the cardbus socket and trying to access the card
>> > wasn't long enough, the interface card isn't initialized fast enough.
>> Actually, this is desktop with pci-pcmcia adapter card.
>> I just tried it in my laptop with 64-bit Ubuntu 8.10 and everything
>> works perfectly.
>>
>> > Please try the following: Go to line 5059 in /sound/pci/rme9652/hdsp.c and
>> > change the line
>> >        ssleep(2);
>> > to
>> >        ssleep(5);
>> >
>> > Compile it and try again.
>>
>> It waits for 5 seconds according to dmesg, but the result is the same:
>> card disabled.
>>
>> The summary of my experiments so far:
>> everywhere Ubuntu is 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11
>>
>> laptop + cardbus + 64-bit ubuntu: WORKS
>>
>> desktop + pci-pcmcia adapter:
>> ubuntu 32: WORKS
>> ubuntu 64: can't upload firmware
>> gentoo 64 + vanilla kernel 2.6.28.2: can't recognize external box,
>> disables the card.
>
> Increasing HDSP_SHORT_WAIT doesn't help, too?

No, I tried several values up to 300 (from original 30), result is the same:
No Digiface or Multiface connected.

This is weird.


Dmitry.