From: Rodolfo Giometti <giometti-AVVDYK/kqiJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>,
linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Kumar Gala
<galak-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
Peter Korsgaard <jacmet-OfajU3CKLf1/SzgSGea1oA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] i2c: ignore active clients detaching during adapter removal.
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:59:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090206125907.GA8581@enneenne.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090206131520.232b53c3-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 01:15:20PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
>
> Taking the old, deprecated, notoriously broken i2c model as an example
> doesn't necessarily serve your cause ;)
I see, but till this part is in we should consider it, shouldn't we?
Eheheh :D
> The big difference, I presume, is that USB is never a system bus. But
> even for USB, devices can't exist without the host. If you kill the
> host and resurrect it later, you also kill the devices and resurrect
> them later.
But this can be done with i2c devices too! Let's think about leds
drivers with uses an i2c GPIOs expander, they can exist without any
adapter, even if they are not functional of course. :)
> The debate about drivers failing device removal is an old one, not
> specific to i2c. My opinion is that .remove() should succeed as much as
> possible. It should really only fail if the problem is so serious that
> the system's state would otherwise become a problem (e.g. freeing
> memory which is still referenced.) This should be a rare case.
I think that i2c clients devices should be really separated by adapter
ones, that is we should be free to add and remove any adapter without
considering the clients state. Then each clients device drivers should
free each allocated resource they use and the adapters shouldn't know
about it.
Doing like this will semply the code a lot and it allows i2c core to
be more flexible.
Ciao,
Rodolfo
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-05 13:36 i2c bus multiplexing (Version 2) Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <1233840973-13268-1-git-send-email-giometti-k2GhghHVRtY@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 13:36 ` [PATCH 1/6] i2c: put driver_unregister() out of core_lock protection Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <1233840973-13268-2-git-send-email-giometti-k2GhghHVRtY@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 13:36 ` [PATCH 2/6] i2c: use rwsem instead of mutex Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <1233840973-13268-3-git-send-email-giometti-k2GhghHVRtY@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 13:36 ` [PATCH 3/6] i2c: ignore active clients detaching during adapter removal Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <1233840973-13268-4-git-send-email-giometti-k2GhghHVRtY@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 13:36 ` [PATCH 4/6] i2c: free adapters (de)registration from i2c "core_lock" mutex Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <1233840973-13268-5-git-send-email-giometti-k2GhghHVRtY@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 13:36 ` [PATCH 5/6] i2c: Multiplexed I2C bus core support Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <1233840973-13268-6-git-send-email-giometti-k2GhghHVRtY@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 13:36 ` [PATCH 6/6] i2c: driver for PCA954x I2C multiplexer series Rodolfo Giometti
2009-02-06 0:02 ` [PATCH 3/6] i2c: ignore active clients detaching during adapter removal David Brownell
[not found] ` <200902051602.44036.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-06 10:22 ` Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <20090206102220.GF28554-AVVDYK/kqiJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-06 12:15 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20090206131520.232b53c3-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-06 12:59 ` Rodolfo Giometti [this message]
[not found] ` <20090206125907.GA8581-AVVDYK/kqiJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-06 21:15 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20090206221519.5fc3d2b9-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-09 13:06 ` Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <20090209130642.GV7975-AVVDYK/kqiJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-10 11:08 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20090210120839.23592e38-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-18 16:48 ` Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <20090218164812.GA11217-AVVDYK/kqiJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 7:50 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20090528095054.03fc2df3-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 7:58 ` Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <20090528075835.GH20243-AVVDYK/kqiJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 8:22 ` Jean Delvare
2009-05-29 7:28 ` Rodolfo Giometti
[not found] ` <20090529072835.GA4575-AVVDYK/kqiJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 7:46 ` Jean Delvare
2009-05-28 11:50 ` [PATCH 2/6] i2c: use rwsem instead of mutex Jean Delvare
2009-12-11 22:41 ` i2c bus multiplexing (Version 2) Muralidharan Karicheri
[not found] ` <loom.20091211T234046-786-eS7Uydv5nfjZ+VzJOa5vwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-16 11:18 ` Jean Delvare
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