Keyboards

Keyboards

[BandiPat]

I am already getting good response from my Grub2 package for Zenwalk! 
Some questions are coming in I'm not sure about, so I will ask you guys. 
  Here is the text from his email:
1. Is it possible to set the keyboard layout for grub? It's always hard 
to find the right characters at lilo prompt.

2. The only real advantage is, that I don't have to run lilo after 
kernel updates? I still have to edit the config file for my self 
compiled kernel updates? Example: Original Zenwalk kernel is always 
symlinked as /boot/vmlinuz. But my own kernels have names like: 
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28.3 and should be booted as default. So after copying 
a new kernel to but I'll have to update my grub.cfg, too. Or is it 
posible to specify some "default settings" in that way:

set root=(hd0,2)
         linux   (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.*.* root=/dev/sda2 ro 
splash=silent vga=794
}
Which would list all vmlinuz-2.6.*.* kernels as menuentry and 
automatically set the highest version number as default. This would be 
cool :-D
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I think the second is possible and requested he give it a try, but the 
keyboard thing, I just wasn't sure about.

Thanks,
Pat


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"Ever tried Zen computing?"  http://www.zenwalk.org

Re: Keyboards

[Felix Zielcke]

Am Mittwoch, den 04.02.2009, 16:17 -0500 schrieb BandiPat:

> 1. Is it possible to set the keyboard layout for grub? It's always hard 
> to find the right characters at lilo prompt.

No.

> 2. The only real advantage is, that I don't have to run lilo after 
> kernel updates? I still have to edit the config file for my self 
> compiled kernel updates? 

Yes or rerun grub-mkconfig.
On Debian/Ubuntu there is /etc/kernel-img.conf where you can specifiy a
postinst_hook which calls update-grub (which is just a stub for
grub-mkconfig)

> set root=(hd0,2)
>          linux   (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.*.* root=/dev/sda2 ro 
> splash=silent vga=794
> }
> Which would list all vmlinuz-2.6.*.* kernels as menuentry and 
> automatically set the highest version number as default. This would be 
> cool :-D

Good idea but that isn't currently possible I think.

-- 
Felix Zielcke

Re: Keyboards

[BandiPat]

Felix Zielcke wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 04.02.2009, 16:17 -0500 schrieb BandiPat:
> 
>> 1. Is it possible to set the keyboard layout for grub? It's always hard 
>> to find the right characters at lilo prompt.
> 
> No.
> 
>> 2. The only real advantage is, that I don't have to run lilo after 
>> kernel updates? I still have to edit the config file for my self 
>> compiled kernel updates? 
> 
> Yes or rerun grub-mkconfig.
> On Debian/Ubuntu there is /etc/kernel-img.conf where you can specifiy a
> postinst_hook which calls update-grub (which is just a stub for
> grub-mkconfig)
> 
>> set root=(hd0,2)
>>          linux   (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.*.* root=/dev/sda2 ro 
>> splash=silent vga=794
>> }
>> Which would list all vmlinuz-2.6.*.* kernels as menuentry and 
>> automatically set the highest version number as default. This would be 
>> cool :-D
> 
> Good idea but that isn't currently possible I think.
> 
============
Ok, thanks Felix, maybe these questions will be some good suggestions 
for you guys to think about adding.  I can see where the keyboard thing 
might be helpful, but the other just seems to be a matter of running 
grub-mkconfig, as it's pretty thorough in it's operation.

I have a suggestion, question or recommendation, also.  When Grub2 boots 
to the loader screen, could you guys change the heading?  From:
GNU GRUB versioni 1.96 to either GNU GRUB2 or GNU GRUB2 version 2.0? 
Since 1.96 is over one year old, it's kinda obsolete now compared to the 
latest svn, plus it seems appropriate to show this is GRUB2, not GRUB.

Just a thought,
Pat

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"Ever tried Zen computing?"  http://www.zenwalk.org

Re: Keyboards

[Robert Millan]

On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 04:17:39PM -0500, BandiPat wrote:
> I am already getting good response from my Grub2 package for Zenwalk! 
> Some questions are coming in I'm not sure about, so I will ask you guys. 
>  Here is the text from his email:
> 1. Is it possible to set the keyboard layout for grub? It's always hard 
> to find the right characters at lilo prompt.

There's someone (Carles Pina) working on that, but his work's not ready yet.

-- 
Robert Millan

  The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."

Re: Keyboards

[Robert Millan]

On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 04:17:39PM -0500, BandiPat wrote:
> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28.3 and should be booted as default. So after copying 
> a new kernel to but I'll have to update my grub.cfg, too. Or is it 
> posible to specify some "default settings" in that way:
> 
> set root=(hd0,2)
>         linux   (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.*.* root=/dev/sda2 ro 
> splash=silent vga=794
> }
> Which would list all vmlinuz-2.6.*.* kernels as menuentry and 
> automatically set the highest version number as default. This would be 
> cool :-D

The idea about letting grub-mkconfig do such things is that since it has
access to a complete Unixy environment, it can be smarter than what GRUB
would do.  Also, this design allows GRUB to be smaller/faster that it
would be if we had to do everything at every boot.

-- 
Robert Millan

  The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."