From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, riel@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3][RFC] swsusp: shrink file cache first
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:56:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090208205650.GA6188@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902071823.54259.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:23:53PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Saturday 07 February 2009, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 01:00:09PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:49:07 +0100
> > > Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > and, I think you should mesure performence result.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I'm still thinking about ideas how to quantify it properly. I
> > > > have not yet found a reliable way to check for whether the working set
> > > > is intact besides seeing whether the resumed applications are
> > > > responsive right away or if they first have to swap in their pages
> > > > again.
> > >
> > > Describing your subjective non-quantitative impressions would be better
> > > than nothing...
> >
> > Okay.
> >
> > > The patch bugs me.
> >
> > Please ignore it, it is broken as is. My verbal cortex got obviously
> > disconnected from my code cortex when writing the changelog...
>
> If I understood this correctly, patch 3/3 is to be disregarded.
>
> > And I will reconsider the actual change bits, I still think that we
> > shouldn't scan anon page lists while may_swap is zero.
>
> Hm, can you please remind me what may_swap == 0 acutally means?
That no mapped pages are reclaimed. These are also mapped file pages,
but more importantly in this case, anon pages. See this check in
shrink_page_list():
if (!sc->may_swap && page_mapped(page))
goto keep_locked;
So scanning anon lists without allowing to unmap doesn't free memory.
Hannes
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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, riel@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3][RFC] swsusp: shrink file cache first
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:56:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090208205650.GA6188@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902071823.54259.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:23:53PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Saturday 07 February 2009, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 01:00:09PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:49:07 +0100
> > > Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > and, I think you should mesure performence result.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I'm still thinking about ideas how to quantify it properly. I
> > > > have not yet found a reliable way to check for whether the working set
> > > > is intact besides seeing whether the resumed applications are
> > > > responsive right away or if they first have to swap in their pages
> > > > again.
> > >
> > > Describing your subjective non-quantitative impressions would be better
> > > than nothing...
> >
> > Okay.
> >
> > > The patch bugs me.
> >
> > Please ignore it, it is broken as is. My verbal cortex got obviously
> > disconnected from my code cortex when writing the changelog...
>
> If I understood this correctly, patch 3/3 is to be disregarded.
>
> > And I will reconsider the actual change bits, I still think that we
> > shouldn't scan anon page lists while may_swap is zero.
>
> Hm, can you please remind me what may_swap == 0 acutally means?
That no mapped pages are reclaimed. These are also mapped file pages,
but more importantly in this case, anon pages. See this check in
shrink_page_list():
if (!sc->may_swap && page_mapped(page))
goto keep_locked;
So scanning anon lists without allowing to unmap doesn't free memory.
Hannes
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-06 3:11 [PATCH 0/3] [PATCH 0/3] swsusp: shrink file cache first Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] swsusp: clean up shrink_all_zones() Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 3:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 3:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] swsusp: dont fiddle with swappiness Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 3:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 3:11 ` [PATCH 3/3][RFC] swsusp: shrink file cache first Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 3:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 4:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 4:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 5:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 5:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 12:24 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 12:24 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 13:35 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 13:35 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 17:15 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 17:15 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 23:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 23:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-09 19:43 ` [patch] vmscan: rename sc.may_swap to may_unmap Johannes Weiner
2009-02-09 19:43 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-09 23:02 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-09 23:02 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-10 10:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-10 10:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-27 6:19 ` [PATCH] vmscan: memcg needs may_swap (Re: [patch] vmscan: rename sc.may_swap to may_unmap) Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-27 6:19 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-27 6:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-27 6:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-29 23:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-29 23:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-31 0:18 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-31 0:18 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-31 1:26 ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-31 1:26 ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-31 1:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-31 1:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-31 1:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-31 1:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-01 4:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-01 4:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-01 5:08 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-04-01 5:08 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-04-01 9:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-01 9:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-01 9:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-01 9:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-01 9:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-01 9:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-01 9:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-01 9:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-01 16:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-01 16:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-03-31 1:52 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-31 1:52 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-02-06 21:00 ` [PATCH 3/3][RFC] swsusp: shrink file cache first Andrew Morton
2009-02-06 21:00 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-06 23:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 23:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-07 17:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-07 17:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-08 20:56 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2009-02-08 20:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-07 4:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-07 4:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-07 16:51 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-07 16:51 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-07 21:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-07 21:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-27 13:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 13:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-01 10:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-01 10:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 8:03 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 8:03 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 10:06 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 10:06 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 11:50 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 11:50 ` Johannes Weiner
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