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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: david@lang.hm, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC - draft] List of proposed future changes that are backward incompatible
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:38:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200902160038.24838.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0902160009010.10279@pacific.mpi-cbg.de>

Hello!

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>> david@lang.hm writes:
>> 
>>> one thing that would help new users is if there was a way to create a 
>>> git config file that explicitly listed all the defaults. either as a 
>>> sample config, or to expand the existing config file with all the 
>>> defaults listed, but commented out.
>>> 
>>> I find that having such a config file helps me find config options I
>>> never thought to look for.
>> 
>> That is a very good idea... if next to impossible now, I think, as
>> there is (I guess) no single place that stores default values.  But
>> perhaps I am mistaken.
> 
> Of course, you have to ignore the fact that it would no longer possible to 
> update defaults for existing repositories.
> 
> For example, setting something like receive.denyCurrentBranch to a saner 
> default would not reach existing repositories.

You missed that it would be a _sample_ config (or commented out sample
config), and not the default config installed when creating repository.

But...

> 
> And you would also have to ignore the fact that sometimes, config 
> variables are deprecated, and this _also_ would not reach existing 
> repositories.  Of course, the same holds true if you set such a config 
> variable manually, but then you are _supposed_ to know the config 
> variable, and you are unlikely to learn the name of an obsolete variable.
> 
> Do keep in mind, too, that most of the variables are next to useless 
> without the proper documentation.  And do you really want to replicate 
> Documentation/config.txt in the config file?  If not, how do you want to 
> make sure that the two different documentations do not go out of sync?
> 
> Further, it would be much, much harder to see what is _actually_ set.
> 
> Summary: I do not like that idea.

... perhaps an alternate solution: add switch to git-config or git-var
which would list (only list, no description) all defaults.  Hmmm?

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-15 23:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-15 21:31 [RFC - draft] List of proposed future changes that are backward incompatible Junio C Hamano
2009-02-15 21:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-15 22:56   ` Jakub Narebski
2009-02-15 23:39     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-15 23:20 ` Heikki Orsila
2009-02-16  0:04   ` disallowing push to currently checked-out branch Jeff King
2009-02-16  1:33     ` david
2009-02-16  1:47       ` david
2009-02-16  1:30         ` Julian Phillips
2009-02-16  4:01         ` Jeff King
2009-02-16  8:33         ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-02-16  8:51           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-16 10:17             ` Sergio Callegari
2009-02-16 13:58               ` Jeff King
2009-02-16 17:13                 ` Sergio Callegari
2009-02-16 17:33                   ` Matthieu Moy
2009-02-16 17:43                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16 18:48                     ` Jay Soffian
2009-02-16 20:02                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16 21:12                         ` Jay Soffian
2009-02-16 21:15                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16 22:28                             ` Jay Soffian
2009-02-16 22:52                               ` Jeff King
2009-02-17  5:53                                 ` Jay Soffian
2009-02-17 11:28                                   ` PUSH_HEAD, was " Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-17 17:29                                     ` Jay Soffian
2009-02-17 19:48                                       ` Jeff King
2009-02-17 22:20                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-17 22:42                                         ` Jay Soffian
2009-02-17 22:54                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16 19:24                     ` Sergio Callegari
2009-02-16 20:09                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16 21:42                         ` Jay Soffian
2009-02-17  0:07                         ` Sergio Callegari
2009-02-17  0:18                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-17  0:41                             ` Sergio Callegari
2009-02-17  0:56                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-17  1:18                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-17  0:57                               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-16 21:43                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-16 22:43                         ` Jeff King
2009-02-16 23:23                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-17  0:23                             ` Jeff King
2009-02-17  0:43                               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-17  1:29                                 ` Jeff King
2009-02-16  3:50       ` Jeff King
2009-02-16  5:05         ` david
2009-02-16  4:05           ` Jeff King
2009-02-16  5:18             ` david
2009-02-16  4:37               ` Jeff King
2009-02-16  5:55                 ` david
2009-02-16  5:06                   ` Jeff King
2009-02-16 10:53                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16 10:50                   ` dashed commands, was " Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-15 23:53 ` [RFC - draft] List of proposed future changes that are backward incompatible david
2009-02-15 23:01   ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-15 23:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-16  0:14     ` david
2009-02-15 23:18       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16  0:38         ` david
2009-02-16  0:29           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-16 10:23           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16 15:33             ` david
2009-02-16 14:40               ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-02-16  0:02       ` disallowing push to currently checked-out branch Jeff King
2009-02-16 10:06         ` Sergio Callegari
2009-02-15 23:01   ` [RFC - draft] List of proposed future changes that are backward incompatible Jakub Narebski
2009-02-15 23:15     ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-15 23:38       ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2009-02-16  0:35       ` david
2009-02-16  0:07   ` send-email sending shallow threads by default Jeff King
2009-02-16  0:09     ` Pieter de Bie
2009-02-16  2:43       ` Jeff King
2009-02-16  2:55         ` Brian Gernhardt
2009-02-16  9:56         ` Wincent Colaiuta
2009-02-16  7:55     ` SZEDER Gábor
2009-02-16 10:38     ` Martin Mares
2009-02-17  8:34       ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-02-17  9:06         ` Martin Mares
2009-02-17 19:28           ` Jeff King
2009-02-20  3:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-20  3:26               ` Jeff King
2009-02-20  4:13                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-02-17  8:30     ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-02-16  1:27   ` [RFC - draft] List of proposed future changes that are backward incompatible Sitaram Chamarty
2009-02-16  8:04   ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-02-16  8:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-16  9:07       ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-02-16  2:42 ` [RFC - draft #2] " Junio C Hamano
2009-02-16  3:20   ` Jeff King
2009-02-16 21:10   ` Jakub Narebski

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