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From: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: oz-kernel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
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	balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] Documentation
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:11:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090312001146.74591b9d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1236823015-4183-2-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:56:46 -0400 Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> +Currently "current" task
> +is used to determine the cgroup (hence io group) of the request. Down the
> +line we need to make use of bio-cgroup patches to map delayed writes to
> +right group.

You handled this problem pretty neatly!

It's always been a BIG problem for all the io-controlling schemes, and
most of them seem to have "handled" it in the above way :(

But for many workloads, writeback is the majority of the IO and it has
always been the form of IO which has caused us the worst contention and
latency problems.  So I don't think that we can proceed with _anything_
until we at least have a convincing plan here.




Also..  there are so many IO controller implementations that I've lost
track of who is doing what.  I do have one private report here that
Andreas's controller "is incredibly productive for us and has allowed
us to put twice as many users per server with faster times for all
users".  Which is pretty stunning, although it should be viewed as a
condemnation of the current code, I'm afraid.

So my question is: what is the definitive list of
proposed-io-controller-implementations and how do I cunningly get all
you guys to check each others homework? :)

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: nauman@google.com, dpshah@google.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	mikew@google.com, fchecconi@gmail.com, paolo.valente@unimore.it,
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	peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] Documentation
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:11:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090312001146.74591b9d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1236823015-4183-2-git-send-email-vgoyal@redhat.com>

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:56:46 -0400 Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:

> +Currently "current" task
> +is used to determine the cgroup (hence io group) of the request. Down the
> +line we need to make use of bio-cgroup patches to map delayed writes to
> +right group.

You handled this problem pretty neatly!

It's always been a BIG problem for all the io-controlling schemes, and
most of them seem to have "handled" it in the above way :(

But for many workloads, writeback is the majority of the IO and it has
always been the form of IO which has caused us the worst contention and
latency problems.  So I don't think that we can proceed with _anything_
until we at least have a convincing plan here.




Also..  there are so many IO controller implementations that I've lost
track of who is doing what.  I do have one private report here that
Andreas's controller "is incredibly productive for us and has allowed
us to put twice as many users per server with faster times for all
users".  Which is pretty stunning, although it should be viewed as a
condemnation of the current code, I'm afraid.

So my question is: what is the definitive list of
proposed-io-controller-implementations and how do I cunningly get all
you guys to check each others homework? :)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-12  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-12  1:56 [RFC] IO Controller Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56 ` [PATCH 02/10] Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-03-19  6:27   ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-03-27  8:30   ` [PATCH] IO Controller: Don't store the pid in single queue circumstances Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]     ` <49CC8EBA.9040804-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-27 13:52       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-27 13:52     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <1236823015-4183-3-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  6:27     ` [PATCH 02/10] Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Gui Jianfeng
2009-03-27  8:30     ` [PATCH] IO Controller: Don't store the pid in single queue circumstances Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-02  4:06     ` [PATCH 02/10] Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Divyesh Shah
2009-04-02  4:06   ` Divyesh Shah
2009-04-02 13:52     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <af41c7c40904012106h41d3cb50i2eeab2a02277a4c9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-02 13:52       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56 ` [PATCH 03/10] Modify cfq to make use of flat elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56 ` [PATCH 07/10] Prepare elevator layer for single queue schedulers Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  3:27 ` [RFC] IO Controller Takuya Yoshikawa
2009-03-12  6:40   ` anqin
2009-03-12  6:55     ` Li Zefan
2009-03-12  7:11       ` anqin
     [not found]         ` <d95d44a20903120011m4a7281enf17b31b9aaf7c937-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 14:57           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12 14:57             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <49B8B1FB.1040506-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12  7:11         ` anqin
     [not found]     ` <d95d44a20903112340s3c77807dt465e68901747ad89-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12  6:55       ` Li Zefan
2009-03-12 13:46       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12 13:46         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <49B8810B.7030603-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12  6:40     ` anqin
2009-03-12 13:43     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12 13:43       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-02  6:39 ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]   ` <49D45DAC.2060508-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-02 14:00     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-02 14:00       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20090402140037.GC12851-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-07  1:40         ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-07  1:40       ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]         ` <49DAAF25.8010702-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-07  6:40           ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-07  6:40             ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-10  9:33 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-10 17:49   ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]   ` <49DF1256.7080403-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-10 17:49     ` Nauman Rafique
2009-04-13 13:09     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-13 13:09   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-22  3:04     ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]       ` <49EE895A.1060101-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-22  3:10         ` Nauman Rafique
2009-04-22 13:23         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-22  3:10       ` Nauman Rafique
2009-04-22 13:23       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-30 19:38         ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]           ` <49F9FE3C.3070000-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-05  3:18             ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-05  3:18           ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]         ` <20090422132307.GA23098-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 19:38           ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]     ` <20090413130958.GB18007-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-22  3:04       ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-01  1:25 ` Divyesh Shah
2009-05-01  2:45   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-01  3:00     ` Divyesh Shah
     [not found]     ` <20090501024527.GA3730-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-01  3:00       ` Divyesh Shah
     [not found]   ` <49FA4F91.204-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-01  2:45     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found] ` <1236823015-4183-1-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 01/10] Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12 10:00     ` Dhaval Giani
     [not found]       ` <20090312100054.GA8024-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 14:04         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12 14:04       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20090312140450.GE10919-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 14:48           ` Fabio Checconi
2009-03-12 14:48             ` Fabio Checconi
2009-03-12 15:03             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20090312144842.GS12361-f9ZlEuEWxVeACYmtYXMKmw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 15:03               ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-18  7:23           ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-03-18  7:23         ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]           ` <49C0A171.8060009-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 21:55             ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-18 21:55               ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-19  3:38               ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]               ` <20090318215529.GA3338-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  3:38                 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-03-24  5:32                 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-03-24  5:32               ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]                 ` <e98e18940903232232i432f62c5r9dfd74268e1b2684-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-24 12:58                   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-24 12:58                     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                     ` <20090324125842.GA21389-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-24 18:14                       ` Nauman Rafique
2009-03-24 18:14                     ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]                       ` <e98e18940903241114u1e03ae7dhf654d7d8d0fc0302-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-24 18:29                         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-24 18:29                           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-24 18:41                           ` Fabio Checconi
     [not found]                             ` <20090324184101.GO18554-f9ZlEuEWxVeACYmtYXMKmw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-24 18:35                               ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-24 18:35                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-24 18:49                                 ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]                                 ` <20090324183532.GG21389-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-24 18:49                                   ` Nauman Rafique
2009-03-24 19:04                                   ` Fabio Checconi
2009-03-24 19:04                                 ` Fabio Checconi
     [not found]                           ` <20090324182906.GF21389-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-24 18:41                             ` Fabio Checconi
     [not found]     ` <1236823015-4183-2-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12  7:11       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-03-12  7:11         ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-12 10:07         ` Ryo Tsuruta
     [not found]         ` <20090312001146.74591b9d.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 10:07           ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-03-12 18:01           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12 18:01         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]           ` <20090312180126.GI10919-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16  8:40             ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-05 15:15             ` Andrea Righi
2009-03-16  8:40           ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-03-16 13:39             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20090316.174043.193698189.ryov-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 13:39               ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-05 15:15           ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-06  6:50             ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]             ` <49D8CB17.7040501-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-06  6:50               ` Nauman Rafique
2009-04-07  6:40               ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-07  6:40                 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-08 20:37                 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-16 18:37                   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-16 18:37                     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-17  5:35                     ` Dhaval Giani
     [not found]                       ` <20090417053517.GC26437-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-17 13:49                         ` IO Controller discussion (Was: Re: [PATCH 01/10] Documentation) Vivek Goyal
2009-04-17 13:49                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                     ` <20090416183753.GE8896-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-17  5:35                       ` [PATCH 01/10] Documentation Dhaval Giani
2009-04-17  9:37                       ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17  9:37                     ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 14:13                       ` IO controller discussion (Was: Re: [PATCH 01/10] Documentation) Vivek Goyal
2009-04-17 14:13                       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-17 18:09                         ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]                           ` <e98e18940904171109r17ccb054kb7879f8d02ac26b5-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-18  8:13                             ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-19 12:59                             ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-19 12:59                               ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-19 13:08                             ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-18  8:13                           ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-19 13:08                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                         ` <20090417141358.GD29086-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-17 18:09                           ` Nauman Rafique
2009-04-17 22:38                           ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-18 13:19                           ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-19  4:35                           ` Nauman Rafique
2009-04-17 22:38                         ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-19 13:21                           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-19 13:21                             ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-18 13:19                         ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                           ` <661de9470904180619k34e7998ch755a2ad3bed9ce5e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-19 13:45                             ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-19 13:45                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                             ` <20090419134508.GG8493-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-19 15:53                               ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-19 15:53                             ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21  1:16                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-21  1:16                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-19  4:35                         ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]                 ` <20090407064046.GB20498-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-08 20:37                   ` [PATCH 01/10] Documentation Andrea Righi
2009-03-12  7:45       ` Yang Hongyang
2009-03-12  7:45         ` Yang Hongyang
2009-03-12 13:51         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <49B8BDB3.40808-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-12 13:51           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12 10:00       ` Dhaval Giani
2009-03-12 10:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-12 10:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-12 14:09         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12 14:09         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-06 14:35       ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-06 14:35         ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-07  5:59         ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]         ` <20090406143556.GK7082-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-06 22:00           ` Nauman Rafique
2009-04-06 22:00             ` Nauman Rafique
2009-04-07  5:59           ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-13 13:40           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-13 13:40         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-01 22:04           ` IKEDA, Munehiro
     [not found]             ` <49FB71F7.90309-MDRzhb/z0dd8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-01 22:45               ` IO Controller per cgroup request descriptors (Re: [PATCH 01/10] Documentation) Vivek Goyal
2009-05-01 22:45                 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-01 23:39                 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-04 17:18                   ` IKEDA, Munehiro
     [not found]                   ` <e98e18940905011639o63c048f1n79c7e7648441a06d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-04 17:18                     ` IKEDA, Munehiro
     [not found]                 ` <20090501224506.GC6130-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-01 23:39                   ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]           ` <20090413134017.GC18007-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-01 22:04             ` [PATCH 01/10] Documentation IKEDA, Munehiro
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 02/10] Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 03/10] Modify cfq to make use of flat elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 04/10] Common hierarchical fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 05/10] cfq changes to use " Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <1236823015-4183-6-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-16  5:25       ` [PATCH] IO-Controller: Fix kernel panic after moving a task Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-16  5:25     ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]       ` <49E6C14F.3090009-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-16 19:15         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-16 19:15           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 06/10] Separate out queue and data Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 07/10] Prepare elevator layer for single queue schedulers Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 08/10] noop changes for hierarchical fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 09/10] deadline " Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56   ` [PATCH 10/10] anticipatory " Vivek Goyal
2009-03-12  1:56     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-27  6:58     ` [PATCH] IO Controller: No need to stop idling in as Gui Jianfeng
2009-03-27 14:05       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-03-30  1:09         ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]         ` <20090327140530.GE30476-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-30  1:09           ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]       ` <49CC791A.10008-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-27 14:05         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <1236823015-4183-11-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-27  6:58       ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-03-12  3:27   ` [RFC] IO Controller Takuya Yoshikawa
2009-04-02  6:39   ` Gui Jianfeng
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