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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Kevin Cernekee <kpc.mtd@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, dwmw2@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4] MTD: New ioctl calls for >4GiB device support
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:50:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200904011650.22928.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a95a62fe0903311129g7ecf6997k2f06f6d9a2abe2c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Kevin Cernekee wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Kevin Cernekee wrote:
> >> +struct mtd_oob_buf64 {
> >> +       uint64_t start;
> >> +       uint32_t res0;
> >> +       uint32_t length;
> >> +       unsigned char __user *ptr;
> >> +       uint32_t res1[8];
> >> +};
> >
> > Does this have to use an indirect pointer? We normally try to avoid
> > ioctl interfaces like this, because they are hard to trace and you
> > need a compat wrapper. You might be able to at least avoid the wrapper
> > by defining the data structure with a __u64 to take the pointer.
> 
> Could you please point out another ioctl that is set up this way, so
> that I can follow the same conventions?

struct signalfd_siginfo uses __u64 to store pointers, and so does
the sg_io_v4 ioctl. Some of the ioctls in kvm.h also use __u64
for addresses.

> Are we ever worried about pointers that are larger than 64 bits, or
> ints that are larger than 32 bits?  Or is it generally OK to assume
> this will never happen?

None of these is a worry, as we already rely on the size of int, long
and pointer in a lot of ways.

> > If you leave the data structure the way it is, you should at least
> > move the compat_ioctl handling into mtdchar.c from compat_ioctl.c.
> > It will simplify your code and help reduce the size of the common
> > ioctl handling.
> 
> Is this what you are recommending?
> 
> 1) Leave existing MTD COMPATIBLE_IOCTLs in fs/compat_ioctl.c
> 
> 2) Implement compat_ioctl handler in mtdchar.c for MEMREADOOB64_32 and
> MEMWRITEOOB64_32
> 
> 3) For all other commands, the new handler should return -ENOIOCTLCMD
> and let fs/compat_ioctl.c handle them

Yes, that would be good.

> Would it be a good idea to move MTDREADOOB32 / MEMWRITEOOB32 out of
> fs/compat_ioctl.c at the same time, so that everything is in one
> place?

Yes, I'd like to see this as a separate patch either before or
after the other one. I have the long-term goal of getting rid of
all the wrapper functions in fs/compat_ioctl.c, but it's stalled
for some time.

> If the compat wrappers are moved to mtdchar.c , does that imply that
> they should be reimplemented "natively" instead of using
> compat_alloc_user_space(), copy_in_user(), and sys_ioctl() to cause
> them to reinvoke the 64-bit versions?

Right, that is what I mean with 'simplify your code'.

Thanks,

	Arnd <><

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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Kevin Cernekee <kpc.mtd@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dwmw2@infradead.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4] MTD: New ioctl calls for >4GiB device support
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:50:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200904011650.22928.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a95a62fe0903311129g7ecf6997k2f06f6d9a2abe2c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Kevin Cernekee wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Kevin Cernekee wrote:
> >> +struct mtd_oob_buf64 {
> >> +       uint64_t start;
> >> +       uint32_t res0;
> >> +       uint32_t length;
> >> +       unsigned char __user *ptr;
> >> +       uint32_t res1[8];
> >> +};
> >
> > Does this have to use an indirect pointer? We normally try to avoid
> > ioctl interfaces like this, because they are hard to trace and you
> > need a compat wrapper. You might be able to at least avoid the wrapper
> > by defining the data structure with a __u64 to take the pointer.
> 
> Could you please point out another ioctl that is set up this way, so
> that I can follow the same conventions?

struct signalfd_siginfo uses __u64 to store pointers, and so does
the sg_io_v4 ioctl. Some of the ioctls in kvm.h also use __u64
for addresses.

> Are we ever worried about pointers that are larger than 64 bits, or
> ints that are larger than 32 bits?  Or is it generally OK to assume
> this will never happen?

None of these is a worry, as we already rely on the size of int, long
and pointer in a lot of ways.

> > If you leave the data structure the way it is, you should at least
> > move the compat_ioctl handling into mtdchar.c from compat_ioctl.c.
> > It will simplify your code and help reduce the size of the common
> > ioctl handling.
> 
> Is this what you are recommending?
> 
> 1) Leave existing MTD COMPATIBLE_IOCTLs in fs/compat_ioctl.c
> 
> 2) Implement compat_ioctl handler in mtdchar.c for MEMREADOOB64_32 and
> MEMWRITEOOB64_32
> 
> 3) For all other commands, the new handler should return -ENOIOCTLCMD
> and let fs/compat_ioctl.c handle them

Yes, that would be good.

> Would it be a good idea to move MTDREADOOB32 / MEMWRITEOOB32 out of
> fs/compat_ioctl.c at the same time, so that everything is in one
> place?

Yes, I'd like to see this as a separate patch either before or
after the other one. I have the long-term goal of getting rid of
all the wrapper functions in fs/compat_ioctl.c, but it's stalled
for some time.

> If the compat wrappers are moved to mtdchar.c , does that imply that
> they should be reimplemented "natively" instead of using
> compat_alloc_user_space(), copy_in_user(), and sys_ioctl() to cause
> them to reinvoke the 64-bit versions?

Right, that is what I mean with 'simplify your code'.

Thanks,

	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-01 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-31  1:14 [PATCHv4] MTD: New ioctl calls for >4GiB device support Kevin Cernekee
2009-03-31  1:14 ` Kevin Cernekee
2009-03-31  6:31 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-31  6:31   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-31 10:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-03-31 10:51   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-03-31 18:29   ` Kevin Cernekee
2009-03-31 18:29     ` Kevin Cernekee
2009-04-01 14:50     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2009-04-01 14:50       ` Arnd Bergmann

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