From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] percpu: convert SNMP mibs to new infra
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:16:23 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200904022216.24259.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D44AD7.8010305@cosmosbay.com>
On Thursday 02 April 2009 15:49:19 Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Rusty Russell a écrit :
> > eg. on S/390, atomic_inc is a win over the two-counter version. On Sparc,
> > two-counter wins. On x86, inc wins (obviously).
> >
> > But efforts to create a single primitive have been problematic: maybe
> > open-coding it like this is the Right Thing.
>
> I tried to find a generic CONFIG_ define that would annonce that an arche
> has a fast percpu_add() implementation. (faster than __raw_get_cpu_var,
> for example, when we already are in a preempt disabled section)
Nope, we don't have one. It was supposed to work like this:
DEFINE_PER_CPU(local_t, counter);
cpu_local_inc(counter);
That would do incl in x86, local_t could even be a long[3] (one for hardirq,
one for softirq, one for user context). But there were issues:
1) It didn't work on dynamic percpu allocs, which was much of the interesting
use (Tejun is fixing this bit right now)
2) The x86 version wasn't optimized anyway,
3) Everyone did atomic_long_inc(), so the ftrace code assumed it would be nmi
safe (tho atomic_t isn't nmi-safe on some archs anyway), so the long[3]
method would break them,
4) The long[3] version was overkill for networking, which doesn't need hardirq
so we'd want another variant of local_t plus all the ops,
5) Some people didn't want long: Christoph had a more generic but more complex
version,
6) It's still not used anywhere in the tree (tho local_t is), so there's no
reason to stick to the current semantics.
> For example, net/ipv4/route.c has :
>
> static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct rt_cache_stat, rt_cache_stat);
> #define RT_CACHE_STAT_INC(field) \
> (__raw_get_cpu_var(rt_cache_stat).field++)
>
> We could use percpu_add(rt_cache_stat.field, 1) instead, only if percpu_add()
> is not the generic one.
Yep, but this one is different from the SNMP stats which needs softirq vs
user context safety. This is where I start wondering how many interfaces
we're going to have...
Sorry to add more questions than answers :(
Rusty.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-02 11:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-01 8:13 [PATCH] x86: percpu_to_op() misses memory and flags clobbers Eric Dumazet
2009-04-01 9:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-01 10:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-01 16:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 16:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-01 16:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 17:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-01 18:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-01 18:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-02 9:52 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 14:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-01 18:44 ` [RFC] percpu: convert SNMP mibs to new infra Eric Dumazet
2009-04-02 0:13 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-02 4:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 8:07 ` [PATCH] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-03 0:39 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-03 17:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 5:04 ` [RFC] " Rusty Russell
2009-04-02 5:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-02 11:46 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
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