From: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
To: Jarrett Lu <Jarrett.Lu@sun.com>
Cc: dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov, labeled-nfs@linux-nfs.org,
nfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
nfsv4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [nfsv4] my thoughts on how Labeled NFSv4 draft should move forward
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:17:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090410201718.GB1500@Sun.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49DA6EF8.1080704@sun.com>
After that long thread on SAAG and a subsequent off-list discussion with
Casey (plus my reading Smack documentation) I'm almost ready to reach
the following conclusions:
- We don't need policy agreement for MLS. Servers have all the
necessary information when comparing labels without reference to a
policy. However, clients have to be sharing a common MLS policy.
- For "smart" MLS and Smack servers we need a method by which servers
can determine the label range/set of client and user principals, but
this need not be specified in a standard way except where label
range/set is borne by authentication credentials (Kerberos V ticket
authorization-data, PKIX cert extensions).
This is already described in my RPCSEC_GSSv3 document.
- For Smack we don't need policy agreement either, but it will be
useful to distribute common subsets of Smack policy to clients, and
to prefix labels from local-only sub-policies with a client ID (or
client DOI, if you wish).
- For DTE I've no idea what to do. Policy agreement seems like a
flight of fancy for DTE. But *much* more importantly, because the
process label transitions can span so many labels we simply cannot
have too smart a server: the server can't meaningfully constrain the
labels that a user@client can assert, therefore the server must trust
all client assertions of process DTE labels or none at all.
I.e., for DTE we can only have "dumb" servers.
Nico
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-10 20:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-06 21:07 my thoughts on how Labeled NFSv4 draft should move forward Jarrett Lu
2009-04-06 22:08 ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-04-10 19:43 ` David P. Quigley
2009-04-10 19:43 ` David P. Quigley
2009-04-10 20:17 ` Nicolas Williams [this message]
2009-04-10 20:38 ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-04-14 15:59 ` David P. Quigley
2009-04-14 17:10 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-13 13:19 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-04-13 15:31 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-14 4:02 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-04-14 17:26 ` Nicolas Williams
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