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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:43:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090416044306.GA21153@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090416035443.GH14687@one.firstfloor.org>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:54:43AM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:41:33AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 09:57:49PM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > That's pretty good separations. I guess it would be convenient to make the
> > > > extra kernel flags available under CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL?
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > BTW an alternative would be just someone implementing a suitable
> > > command/macro in crash(1) and tell the kernel hackers to run that on
> > > /proc/kcore. That would have the advantage to not require code.
> > 
> > Hmm, that would be horrible to code/maintain. i
> 
> Actually the bits are enums and crash is able to read C type 
> information.

Great! That dismissed my main concern with crash.

> > One major purpose of
> > /proc/kpageflags is to export the unstable kernel page flag bits as
> > stable ones to user space. 
> 
> That's the first case ("administrator"), but not the second one
> ("kernel hacker")
> 
> BTW not saying that crash is the best solution for this, but
> it's certainly an serious alternative for the kernel hacker
> case. 

OK.

> > Note that the exact internal flag bits can
> > not only change slowly with kernel versions, but more likely with
> > different kconfig combinations.
> 
> Really? The numbers should be the same, at least for a given
> architecture with 32bit/64bit.

For example, the presence of CONFIG_PAGEFLAGS_EXTENDED will shift
all the following flag bits by 1.

        #ifdef CONFIG_PAGEFLAGS_EXTENDED
                PG_head,                /* A head page */
                PG_tail,                /* A tail page */
        #else  
                PG_compound,            /* A compound page */
        #endif 
                PG_swapcache,           /* Swap page: swp_entry_t in private */
                PG_mappedtodisk,        /* Has blocks allocated on-disk */
                PG_reclaim,             /* To be reclaimed asap */
                PG_buddy,               /* Page is free, on buddy lists */
                PG_swapbacked,          /* Page is backed by RAM/swap */
        #ifdef CONFIG_UNEVICTABLE_LRU
                PG_unevictable,         /* Page is "unevictable"  */
        #endif
        #ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_MLOCKED_PAGE_BIT
                PG_mlocked,             /* Page is vma mlocked */
        #endif
        #ifdef CONFIG_IA64_UNCACHED_ALLOCATOR
                PG_uncached,            /* Page has been mapped as uncached */
        #endif  
                __NR_PAGEFLAGS,


> > Followed are their detailed locations. Did we found a bug? ;-)
> 
> I think all pages > 0 in a larger page are tails.  But I don't
> claim to understand all the finer details of compound pages.

Right. Tail pages will outnumber head pages. But I found that the
tail page _ranges_ greatly outnumber head pages. There should be
exactly one tail page range for one head page. 

Thanks,
Fengguang

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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:43:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090416044306.GA21153@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090416035443.GH14687@one.firstfloor.org>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:54:43AM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:41:33AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 09:57:49PM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > That's pretty good separations. I guess it would be convenient to make the
> > > > extra kernel flags available under CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL?
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > BTW an alternative would be just someone implementing a suitable
> > > command/macro in crash(1) and tell the kernel hackers to run that on
> > > /proc/kcore. That would have the advantage to not require code.
> > 
> > Hmm, that would be horrible to code/maintain. i
> 
> Actually the bits are enums and crash is able to read C type 
> information.

Great! That dismissed my main concern with crash.

> > One major purpose of
> > /proc/kpageflags is to export the unstable kernel page flag bits as
> > stable ones to user space. 
> 
> That's the first case ("administrator"), but not the second one
> ("kernel hacker")
> 
> BTW not saying that crash is the best solution for this, but
> it's certainly an serious alternative for the kernel hacker
> case. 

OK.

> > Note that the exact internal flag bits can
> > not only change slowly with kernel versions, but more likely with
> > different kconfig combinations.
> 
> Really? The numbers should be the same, at least for a given
> architecture with 32bit/64bit.

For example, the presence of CONFIG_PAGEFLAGS_EXTENDED will shift
all the following flag bits by 1.

        #ifdef CONFIG_PAGEFLAGS_EXTENDED
                PG_head,                /* A head page */
                PG_tail,                /* A tail page */
        #else  
                PG_compound,            /* A compound page */
        #endif 
                PG_swapcache,           /* Swap page: swp_entry_t in private */
                PG_mappedtodisk,        /* Has blocks allocated on-disk */
                PG_reclaim,             /* To be reclaimed asap */
                PG_buddy,               /* Page is free, on buddy lists */
                PG_swapbacked,          /* Page is backed by RAM/swap */
        #ifdef CONFIG_UNEVICTABLE_LRU
                PG_unevictable,         /* Page is "unevictable"  */
        #endif
        #ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_MLOCKED_PAGE_BIT
                PG_mlocked,             /* Page is vma mlocked */
        #endif
        #ifdef CONFIG_IA64_UNCACHED_ALLOCATOR
                PG_uncached,            /* Page has been mapped as uncached */
        #endif  
                __NR_PAGEFLAGS,


> > Followed are their detailed locations. Did we found a bug? ;-)
> 
> I think all pages > 0 in a larger page are tails.  But I don't
> claim to understand all the finer details of compound pages.

Right. Tail pages will outnumber head pages. But I found that the
tail page _ranges_ greatly outnumber head pages. There should be
exactly one tail page range for one head page. 

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-16  4:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-14  4:22 [RFC][PATCH] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14  4:22 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14  4:36 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14  4:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  4:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  6:41   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14  6:41     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14  6:54     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  6:54       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  7:11       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-14  7:11         ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-14  7:17         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  7:17           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-15 13:18         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-15 13:18           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-15 13:57           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-15 13:57             ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-16  2:41             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-16  2:41               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-16  3:54               ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-16  3:54                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-16  4:43                 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-04-16  4:43                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-16  2:26           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-16  2:26             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-16  3:49             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-16  3:49               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-16  6:30               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-16  6:30                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-23  2:26             ` [RFC][PATCH] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags (take 3) Wu Fengguang
2009-04-23  2:26               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-23  7:48               ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-23  7:48                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-23  8:10                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-23  8:10                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-23  8:54                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-23  8:54                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-23 11:21                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-23 11:21                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-25  1:59               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14  7:22       ` [RFC][PATCH] proc: export more page flags in /proc/kpageflags Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14  7:22         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14  7:42         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  7:42           ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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