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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: zhaolei@cn.fujitsu.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	tzanussi@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	oleg@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] workqueue_tracepoint: Add worklet tracepoints for worklet lifecycle tracing
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:20:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090424162056.45907fef.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090424225909.GA6658@nowhere>

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:59:10 +0200
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> [useful info]
>

OK, thanks.  It was waaaay more useful than the original description.

> So this latest patchset provides all these required informations on the events
> tracing level.

Well.. required by who?

I don't recall ever seeing any problems of this nature, nor patches to
solve any such problems.  If someone wants to get down and optimise our use
of workqueues then good for them, but that exercise doesn't require the
permanent addition of large amounts of code to the kernel.

The same amount of additional code and additional churn could be added
to probably tens of core kernel subsystems, but what _point_ is there
to all this?  Who is using it, what problems are they solving?

We keep on adding all these fancy debug gizmos to the core kernel which look
like they will be used by one person, once.  If that!

> The next step is likely to be on the stat tracing to provide the avg/max time
> of execution.

eek.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-24 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-13  0:53 [PATCH 0/1] tracing, workqueuetrace: Make workqueue tracepoints use TRACE_EVENT macro Zhaolei
2009-04-13  0:54 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Zhaolei
2009-04-13  1:44   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13  3:25     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13  3:49       ` Zhaolei
2009-04-13  3:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-13  4:07           ` Re: [PATCH 1/1] tracing, workqueuetrace: Make workqueuetracepoints " Zhaolei
2009-04-13  3:57         ` [PATCH 1/1] tracing, workqueuetrace: Make workqueue tracepoints " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13  5:52           ` [PATCH v2 1/4] ftrace, " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13  5:53             ` [PATCH v2 2/4] ftrace: introduce workqueue_handler_exit tracepoint and rename workqueue_execution to workqueue_handler_entry KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13 16:25               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-15 10:22                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-15 11:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 11:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-15 11:45                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 12:05                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13  5:53             ` [PATCH v2 3/4] ftrace: add max execution time mesurement to workqueue tracer KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13 16:16               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-13 21:21                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14  1:43                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14 11:40                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-15  0:31                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13  5:55             ` [PATCH v2 4/4] ftrace: add latecy mesurement feature " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14  2:50               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13 15:24             ` [PATCH v2 1/4] ftrace, workqueuetrace: Make workqueue tracepoints use TRACE_EVENT macro Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-14  4:03             ` [PATCH v2 5/4] ftrace, workqueuetrace: display work name KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-14 21:16               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-14 23:55                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-15  1:15                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-15  6:13                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-15  6:17                       ` Zhaolei
2009-04-15  9:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 16:23                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-17  6:56                       ` [PATCH v3 0/1] ftrace, workqueuetrace: Make workqueue tracepoints use TRACE_EVENT macro Zhaolei
2009-04-17  7:15                         ` [PATCH v3 1/1] " Zhaolei
2009-04-17 13:45                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20  1:30                             ` [PATCH v3 1/1] ftrace, workqueuetrace: Make workqueuetracepoints " Zhaolei
2009-04-20  1:38                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-20  1:43                                 ` Zhaolei
2009-04-20  1:49                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-20  8:46                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 22:25                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-20 23:48                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-21 15:28                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-21 15:50                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-21 18:33                                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-21 18:28                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-21 19:37                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24 11:42                             ` [PATCH 0/4] workqueue_tracepoint: Add worklet tracepoints for worklet lifecycle tracing Zhaolei
2009-04-24 11:43                               ` [PATCH 1/4] workqueue_tracepoint: introduce workqueue_handler_exit tracepoint and rename workqueue_execution to workqueue_handler_entry Zhaolei
2009-04-24 11:45                               ` [PATCH 2/4] workqueue_tracepoint: Add workqueue_flush and worklet_cancel tracepoint Zhaolei
2009-04-24 11:45                               ` [PATCH 3/4] workqueue_tracepoint: Change tracepoint name to fit worklet and workqueue lifecycle Zhaolei
2009-04-24 11:46                               ` [PATCH 4/4] workqueue_trace: Separate worklet_insertion into worklet_enqueue and worklet_enqueue_delayed Zhaolei
2009-04-24 20:06                               ` [PATCH 0/4] workqueue_tracepoint: Add worklet tracepoints for worklet lifecycle tracing Andrew Morton
2009-04-24 22:59                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-24 23:20                                   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-04-25  0:37                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-25  1:28                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-25  2:00                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-25  2:24                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-25  2:51                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-25  3:10                                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-25  3:32                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-26 10:47                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-27  5:44                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-27 15:02                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-27 15:43                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-27 19:09                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-28 13:42                                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-28 16:43                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-28 17:49                                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-24 23:27                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-28 17:24                                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-04-28 18:48                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-28 20:51                                     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-04-29  4:03                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-29  4:29                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29  5:21                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-20 17:11                           ` [PATCH v3 1/1] ftrace, workqueuetrace: Make workqueue tracepoints use TRACE_EVENT macro Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-21  1:20                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-20  6:42                       ` [PATCH 0/4] ftrace, workqueuetrace: Add worklet informationame Zhaolei
2009-04-20  6:58                         ` [PATCH 1/4] trace_workqueue: use list_for_each_entry() instead of list_for_each_entry_safe() Zhaolei
2009-04-20  7:26                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-20  6:59                         ` [PATCH 2/4] trace_workqueue: Remove cpu_workqueue_stats->first_entry Zhaolei
2009-04-20  7:02                         ` [PATCH 3/4] trace_workqueue: Remove blank line between each cpu Zhaolei
2009-04-20  7:09                         ` [PATCH 4/4] trace_workqueue: Add worklet information Zhaolei
2009-04-20 11:36                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-21  1:57                             ` Zhaolei
2009-04-21 23:39                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-20  7:23                         ` [PATCH 0/4] ftrace, workqueuetrace: Add worklet informationame Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-13 14:34     ` [PATCH 1/1] tracing, workqueuetrace: Make workqueue tracepoints use TRACE_EVENT macro Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-13 14:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-15  6:47     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-13 13:57 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Frederic Weisbecker

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