From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>,
Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ogawa Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
Andrew Tridgell <tridge@samba.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:37:29 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090502013729.GI6996@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090501210109.GA3079@infradead.org>
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 05:01:09PM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:18:20PM -0500, Steve French wrote:
> > For those manufacturers who who would like to disable
> > creation of long file names, but allow reading long file names,
> > and handle FAT32 on disk format and maximum sizes, it seems
> > reasonable to give them a simple configure option for it. It is
> > harder, and less effective, to make the corresponding change
> > to modify the mount helper and kernel code to add
> > a new mount option, because it can be bypassed trivially
> > at the command line (ie having to "force" mount to pass a "nolongfilename"
> > mount option, would be harder than a simple kernel configure option)
>
> Steve, can you please stop the bullshitting?
>
> >From the complete lack of technical arguments it's pretty obvious that
> this seems to be some FUD fallout from the MS vs TomTom patent lawsuite.
>
> I'm not a lawyer so I don't know how much of a threat it is. But either
> the case gets shot down by showing prior art and everything is fine, or
> we indeed are in deep trouble and should remove it completely. Given
> the Cc list on here IBM seems to have some legal opinion on it, so can
> we please see it and discuss what we want to with all cards on the
> table?
Hello, Christoph!
Hmmm... Both Tridge and Dave have Signed-off-by on the original patch,
and Steve has Acked-by, Mingming has Cc, and Dave is on the From list
rather than the Cc list, so I have to guess that there is a good chance
that you are talking about me. ;-)
However, as far as I know, none of us are lawyers, and LKML is definitely
a technical rather than a legal forum, so we really do need to stick to
technical topics. I understand that this might be a bit frustrating
to you. On the other hand, I for one much prefer being in a forum
restricted to technical topics than to be in those places designed to
handle legal topics!
I suspect that this is not the answer that you were looking for, and
I do apologize for any disappointment, but this does happen to be the
answer that I have.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-02 1:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-01 20:18 [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option Steve French
2009-05-01 21:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 1:37 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-05-02 1:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-02 3:02 ` Steve French
2009-05-02 3:02 ` Steve French
2009-05-02 4:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-02 9:15 ` tridge
2009-05-02 9:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 9:30 ` tridge
2009-05-02 12:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-03 21:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-03 22:25 ` tridge
2009-05-03 22:56 ` Al Viro
2009-05-03 23:15 ` tridge
2009-05-04 5:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 6:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 6:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 12:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 12:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 13:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 13:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 14:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 15:36 ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-04 15:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 16:07 ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-04 16:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 16:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 18:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 18:17 ` Al Viro
2009-05-04 20:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:06 ` Olivier Galibert
2009-05-04 17:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-04 20:53 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-04 23:03 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-05 11:09 ` David Newall
2009-05-05 11:09 ` David Newall
2009-05-05 20:56 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 21:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-05 22:29 ` Steve French
2009-05-05 22:29 ` Steve French
2009-05-05 8:31 ` Zero-day exploit details (Was: Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option) David Newall
2009-05-04 16:11 ` [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 16:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 16:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 22:12 ` Greg KH
2009-05-05 2:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05 2:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05 2:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05 2:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05 3:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05 3:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05 8:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 15:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05 21:00 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 21:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05 3:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-04 15:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-04 16:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-02 6:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 2:12 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-02 6:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 6:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-01 17:41 Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 17:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-01 18:12 ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 18:19 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-01 19:09 ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 18:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 10:09 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:14 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:26 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:41 ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:03 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 11:13 ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:29 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 11:41 ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:59 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 12:15 ` tridge
2009-05-02 12:48 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 13:06 ` tridge
2009-05-02 14:01 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-27 12:05 ` vimal singh
2009-05-27 12:05 ` vimal singh
2009-05-27 23:57 ` tridge
2009-06-04 10:26 ` vimal singh
2009-06-04 10:26 ` vimal singh
2009-06-04 21:33 ` tridge
2009-05-02 10:20 ` tridge
2009-05-02 10:32 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-03 21:56 ` Pavel Machek
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