From: Andres Salomon <dilinger@queued.net>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Kailang Yang <kailang@realtek.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: realtek ALC272 support
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:37:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090504083710.35ccca6b@dev.queued.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h8wld9wpx.wl%tiwai@suse.de>
On Mon, 04 May 2009 09:02:50 +0200
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> At Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:51:27 -0400,
> Andres Salomon wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:34:02 +0200
> > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > > At Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:01:42 -0400,
> > > Andres Salomon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:09:20 +0200
> > > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:02:41 -0400,
> > > > > Andres Salomon wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:33:28 +0200
> > > > > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > At Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:21:55 -0400,
> > > > > > > Andres Salomon wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:41:08 -0400
> > > > > > > > Andres Salomon <dilinger@queued.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:08:21 +0200
> > > > > > > > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:24:15 -0400,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andres Salomon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kailang,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed that your name was on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALC272 support patch for ALSA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intel-hda. This patch basically sets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALC272 to use (mostly) the same code
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as ALC662. I have two machines that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have ALC272, and both of them need
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verb tables in order to function.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering if ALC662 should really
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be used..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's one -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commitdiff;h=7662834bb9a78d244c6d7ee43358c14c94d249c9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This isn't the final version of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > patch (there are further commits I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made in order to support headphone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mic stuff), but it gives you an idea
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the codec values. The other is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commitdiff;h=72ff85641a30dc7ac502e2ea01bf14a04efb4cf1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of these leave me wonder if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's a specific patch_alc272
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > function that could be written to rid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ourselves of these specific quirks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there machines with ALC272 that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are functional with the current ALSA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Could you try sound-unstable tree a bit later again?
> > > > > > > > > > I found a bug in my patch, and fixed and updated GIT
> > > > > > > > > > tree now. At least, the headphone plugging should
> > > > > > > > > > work now.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The mic auto-detection still doesn't work with
> > > > > > > > > > model=auto, though. So, I'm going to take your patch
> > > > > > > > > > anyway later. But I just wanted to be sure that the
> > > > > > > > > > current tree could work somehow better...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I just updated and tried the current tree; still no
> > > > > > > > > sound/headphone output. :(
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok, I believe I've made some progress on this. The
> > > > > > > > problem appears to be related to the autoconfig
> > > > > > > > handling of the line out nids. The current code ends
> > > > > > > > up with something like the following:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3833: autoconfig:
> > > > > > > > line_outs=1 (0x17/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> > > > > > > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3837: speaker_outs=0
> > > > > > > > (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> > > > > > > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3841: hp_outs=1
> > > > > > > > (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) ALSA
> > > > > > > > sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3842: mono: mono_out=0x0 ALSA
> > > > > > > > sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3853: inputs: mic=0x18,
> > > > > > > > fmic=0x19, line=0x0, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > However, NID 0x17 is actually a speaker_out. The code
> > > > > > > > that checks for line_outs in
> > > > > > > > snd_hda_parse_pin_def_config() unsets the speaker_out
> > > > > > > > and uses that NID for a line_out. For whatever reason,
> > > > > > > > this breaks things (no sound output, no headphone out).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's intentional, and the driver checks that case, too.
> > > > > > > Please check the latest sound git tree and see the kernel
> > > > > > > message. You should have messages like "realtek: ..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Takashi
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The realtek: lines don't appear to affect NID 0x17 at all.
> > > > > > Instead, they say:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1154: realtek: No valid
> > > > > > SSID, checking pincfg 0x40178e2d for NID 0x1d ALSA
> > > > > > sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1170: realtek: Enabling init
> > > > > > ASM_ID=0x8e2d CODEC_ID=10ec0272 ALSA
> > > > > > sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1111: realtek: Enable HP
> > > > > > auto-muting on NID 0x21
> > > > >
> > > > > Then 0x17 should be toggled when the jack on 0x21 is detected.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Takashi
> > > >
> > > > But since I get absolutely no sound through headphones or
> > > > speakers, I can't tell if it's being toggled. :)
> > >
> > > You can see the 0x17 in the codec proc whether it's changed at
> > > plugged / unplugged. The driver should change its pin control
> > > dynamically.
> > >
> > > > I've noticed:
> > > > - in order to get speaker output, 0x17 *must* be defined as the
> > > > speaker-out, and 0x14 *must* be listed as a line-out pin.
> > > > - in order to get headphone output, neither 0x17 nor 0x15 are
> > > > to be listed as the first line-out pin
> > >
> > > Then it implies that 0x17 has nothing to do with the speaker,
> > > i.e. a BIOS bug. 0x14 could be the speaker output while 0x17 is
> > > just a dummy.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Specifying 0x14 as the speaker-pin doesn't work, either.
>
> How did you test it?
>
>
> Takashi
I had tried manually setting the speaker and line-out pins in the
autoconfig function.
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From: Andres Salomon <dilinger@queued.net>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Kailang Yang <kailang@realtek.com>,
alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: realtek ALC272 support
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:37:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090504083710.35ccca6b@dev.queued.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h8wld9wpx.wl%tiwai@suse.de>
On Mon, 04 May 2009 09:02:50 +0200
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> At Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:51:27 -0400,
> Andres Salomon wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:34:02 +0200
> > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > > At Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:01:42 -0400,
> > > Andres Salomon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:09:20 +0200
> > > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:02:41 -0400,
> > > > > Andres Salomon wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:33:28 +0200
> > > > > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > At Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:21:55 -0400,
> > > > > > > Andres Salomon wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:41:08 -0400
> > > > > > > > Andres Salomon <dilinger@queued.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:08:21 +0200
> > > > > > > > > Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:24:15 -0400,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andres Salomon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kailang,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed that your name was on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALC272 support patch for ALSA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intel-hda. This patch basically sets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALC272 to use (mostly) the same code
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as ALC662. I have two machines that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have ALC272, and both of them need
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verb tables in order to function.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering if ALC662 should really
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be used..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's one -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commitdiff;h=7662834bb9a78d244c6d7ee43358c14c94d249c9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This isn't the final version of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > patch (there are further commits I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made in order to support headphone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mic stuff), but it gives you an idea
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the codec values. The other is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commitdiff;h=72ff85641a30dc7ac502e2ea01bf14a04efb4cf1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of these leave me wonder if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's a specific patch_alc272
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > function that could be written to rid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ourselves of these specific quirks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there machines with ALC272 that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are functional with the current ALSA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Could you try sound-unstable tree a bit later again?
> > > > > > > > > > I found a bug in my patch, and fixed and updated GIT
> > > > > > > > > > tree now. At least, the headphone plugging should
> > > > > > > > > > work now.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The mic auto-detection still doesn't work with
> > > > > > > > > > model=auto, though. So, I'm going to take your patch
> > > > > > > > > > anyway later. But I just wanted to be sure that the
> > > > > > > > > > current tree could work somehow better...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I just updated and tried the current tree; still no
> > > > > > > > > sound/headphone output. :(
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ok, I believe I've made some progress on this. The
> > > > > > > > problem appears to be related to the autoconfig
> > > > > > > > handling of the line out nids. The current code ends
> > > > > > > > up with something like the following:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3833: autoconfig:
> > > > > > > > line_outs=1 (0x17/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> > > > > > > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3837: speaker_outs=0
> > > > > > > > (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
> > > > > > > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3841: hp_outs=1
> > > > > > > > (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) ALSA
> > > > > > > > sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3842: mono: mono_out=0x0 ALSA
> > > > > > > > sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:3853: inputs: mic=0x18,
> > > > > > > > fmic=0x19, line=0x0, fline=0x0, cd=0x0, aux=0x0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > However, NID 0x17 is actually a speaker_out. The code
> > > > > > > > that checks for line_outs in
> > > > > > > > snd_hda_parse_pin_def_config() unsets the speaker_out
> > > > > > > > and uses that NID for a line_out. For whatever reason,
> > > > > > > > this breaks things (no sound output, no headphone out).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's intentional, and the driver checks that case, too.
> > > > > > > Please check the latest sound git tree and see the kernel
> > > > > > > message. You should have messages like "realtek: ..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Takashi
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The realtek: lines don't appear to affect NID 0x17 at all.
> > > > > > Instead, they say:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ALSA sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1154: realtek: No valid
> > > > > > SSID, checking pincfg 0x40178e2d for NID 0x1d ALSA
> > > > > > sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1170: realtek: Enabling init
> > > > > > ASM_ID=0x8e2d CODEC_ID=10ec0272 ALSA
> > > > > > sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1111: realtek: Enable HP
> > > > > > auto-muting on NID 0x21
> > > > >
> > > > > Then 0x17 should be toggled when the jack on 0x21 is detected.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Takashi
> > > >
> > > > But since I get absolutely no sound through headphones or
> > > > speakers, I can't tell if it's being toggled. :)
> > >
> > > You can see the 0x17 in the codec proc whether it's changed at
> > > plugged / unplugged. The driver should change its pin control
> > > dynamically.
> > >
> > > > I've noticed:
> > > > - in order to get speaker output, 0x17 *must* be defined as the
> > > > speaker-out, and 0x14 *must* be listed as a line-out pin.
> > > > - in order to get headphone output, neither 0x17 nor 0x15 are
> > > > to be listed as the first line-out pin
> > >
> > > Then it implies that 0x17 has nothing to do with the speaker,
> > > i.e. a BIOS bug. 0x14 could be the speaker output while 0x17 is
> > > just a dummy.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Specifying 0x14 as the speaker-pin doesn't work, either.
>
> How did you test it?
>
>
> Takashi
I had tried manually setting the speaker and line-out pins in the
autoconfig function.
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2009-04-28 22:21 ` realtek ALC272 support Andres Salomon
2009-04-28 22:21 ` Andres Salomon
2009-04-29 6:33 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-29 6:33 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-29 13:02 ` Andres Salomon
2009-04-29 13:02 ` Andres Salomon
2009-04-29 13:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-29 13:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-29 17:01 ` Andres Salomon
2009-04-29 17:01 ` Andres Salomon
2009-04-30 5:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-30 5:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-30 13:51 ` Andres Salomon
2009-04-30 13:51 ` Andres Salomon
2009-05-04 7:02 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-04 7:02 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-04 12:37 ` Andres Salomon [this message]
2009-05-04 12:37 ` Andres Salomon
2009-05-04 12:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-04 12:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-04 14:03 ` Andres Salomon
2009-05-04 14:03 ` Andres Salomon
2009-05-04 14:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-04 14:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-05-04 14:37 ` Andres Salomon
2009-05-04 14:37 ` Andres Salomon
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