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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: ivecera@redhat.com, fubar@us.ibm.com, jpirko@redhat.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mschmidt@redhat.com,
	jgarzik@pobox.com, dada1@cosmosbay.com,
	bonding-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v6)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:29:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090508162949.4e76abd6@nehalam> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090508.162555.193731410.davem@davemloft.net>

On Fri, 08 May 2009 16:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:

> From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:12:04 -0700
> 
> > But the other infrastructure may have same issues (netfilter, etc).
> > Just seems like it would be either to have multiple network devices
> > so that upper layers could disambiguate easier.
> 
> That's quite a heavyweight solution to what is purely
> an addressing issue, don't you think?
> 
> We can just revert all of that netdev_ops stuff if you
> think per-netdev cost doesn't matter :-)

I am just concerned that is a fundamental change (like MQ) was and
it will take a couple of releases to shake out all the inter-relationships.
When an architectural change is made, would like to see more analysis done.
Netdev-ops was more of a refactoring than a change to what protocols
and qdisc/filters/... see.

-- 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: jpirko@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, fubar@us.ibm.com,
	bonding-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, kaber@trash.net,
	mschmidt@redhat.com, dada1@cosmosbay.com, ivecera@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v6)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:29:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090508162949.4e76abd6@nehalam> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090508.162555.193731410.davem@davemloft.net>

On Fri, 08 May 2009 16:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:

> From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:12:04 -0700
> 
> > But the other infrastructure may have same issues (netfilter, etc).
> > Just seems like it would be either to have multiple network devices
> > so that upper layers could disambiguate easier.
> 
> That's quite a heavyweight solution to what is purely
> an addressing issue, don't you think?
> 
> We can just revert all of that netdev_ops stuff if you
> think per-netdev cost doesn't matter :-)

I am just concerned that is a fundamental change (like MQ) was and
it will take a couple of releases to shake out all the inter-relationships.
When an architectural change is made, would like to see more analysis done.
Netdev-ops was more of a refactoring than a change to what protocols
and qdisc/filters/... see.

-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-08 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-13 18:33 [Bridge] [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge Jiri Pirko
2009-03-13 18:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-14  5:39 ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-14  5:39   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-14  9:49   ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-14  9:49     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-15 23:12     ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-15 23:12       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-16 11:11       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-16 11:11         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19  6:20         ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-19  6:20           ` David Miller
2009-03-19  8:44           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19  8:44             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19 10:21             ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-19 10:21               ` David Miller
2009-03-19 11:19               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19 11:19                 ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19  8:50           ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-19  8:50             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-19 16:31             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-19 16:31               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 13:04 ` [Bridge] [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try2 Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 13:04   ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 13:40   ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-03-25 13:40     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-25 14:39     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 14:39       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 15:19 ` [Bridge] [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try3 Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 15:19   ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 16:31   ` [Bridge] " Jay Vosburgh
2009-03-25 16:31     ` Jay Vosburgh
2009-03-25 17:44     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-25 17:44       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-26  0:24       ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-26  0:24         ` David Miller
2009-03-26  0:34       ` [Bridge] " Jay Vosburgh
2009-03-26  0:34         ` Jay Vosburgh
2009-03-26 11:12     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-26 11:12       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-26 15:52 ` [Bridge] [PATCH] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try4 Jiri Pirko
2009-03-26 15:52   ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  7:38   ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-27  7:38     ` David Miller
2009-03-27  7:46     ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  7:46       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  7:53     ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-27  7:53       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-27  8:41       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  8:41         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  8:55         ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-27  8:55           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-27  9:47           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-27  9:47             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-29 20:53       ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-03-29 20:53         ` David Miller
2009-03-30 12:04         ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:04           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:40           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-30 12:40             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-30 12:47             ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:47               ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:52               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-03-30 12:52                 ` Jiri Pirko
2009-03-30 12:58                 ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-03-30 12:58                   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-05-26 15:17   ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try4.1 Jiri Pirko
2009-05-26 16:32     ` Andy Gospodarek
2009-05-27  8:25       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-26 16:59     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-27  8:42       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-27 13:53     ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try4.2 Jiri Pirko
2009-05-27 14:39       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-28  9:57         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-28 11:05       ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try4.3 Jiri Pirko
2009-05-28 11:41         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-29  8:52           ` David Miller
2009-05-28 12:11         ` Andy Gospodarek
2009-04-13  8:37 ` [Bridge] [PATCH 0/4] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try5 Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:37   ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:38   ` [Bridge] [PATCH 1/4] net: introduce dev_mac_address_changed Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:38     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 14:58     ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 14:58       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13  8:42   ` [Bridge] [PATCH 2/4] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:42     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 14:49     ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 14:49       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 22:54       ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-13 22:54         ` David Miller
2009-04-13 22:53     ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-13 22:53       ` David Miller
2009-04-13  8:44   ` [Bridge] [PATCH 3/4] net: bridge: use device address list instead of dev_addr Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:44     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 14:54     ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 14:54       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 10:15       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-14 10:15         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 22:54     ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-13 22:54       ` David Miller
2009-04-13  8:46   ` [Bridge] [PATCH 4/4] net: bonding: add slave device addresses in mode alb Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13  8:46     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-13 14:56     ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 14:56       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15  8:17 ` [Bridge] [PATCH 0/3] bonding: allow bond in mode balance-alb to work properly in bridge -try6 Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:17   ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:18   ` [Bridge] [PATCH 1/3] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:18     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:26     ` [Bridge] " Li Zefan
2009-04-15  8:26       ` Li Zefan
2009-04-15  8:29       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:29         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:32       ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:32         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  9:21         ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15  9:21           ` David Miller
2009-04-15  9:27         ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15  9:27           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15  9:31           ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15  9:31             ` David Miller
2009-04-15 10:13             ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:13               ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:15               ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15 10:15                 ` David Miller
2009-04-15 10:41                 ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:41                   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:45                   ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-04-15 10:45                     ` David Miller
2009-04-15 10:47                     ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 10:47                       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 14:42               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 14:42                 ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 11:17           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 11:17             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 11:22             ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 11:22               ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 11:28               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 11:28                 ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 12:28             ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 12:28               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 18:02     ` [Bridge] [PATCH 1/3] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v2) Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 18:02       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15 18:54       ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 18:54         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16  8:46         ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-16  8:46           ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-17 11:57       ` [Bridge] [PATCH 1/3] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v3) Jiri Pirko
2009-04-17 11:57         ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-17 15:33         ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-17 15:33           ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-18  7:01           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  7:01             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  7:35             ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-18  7:35               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-18  7:44               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  7:44                 ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  8:06                 ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-04-18  8:06                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-18  8:58         ` [Bridge] [PATCH 1/3] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v4) Jiri Pirko
2009-04-18  8:58           ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-20 16:11           ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-20 16:11             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-23  8:09             ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-04-23  8:09               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-04-23 15:58           ` [Bridge] [Bonding-devel] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-24 21:26             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-04 11:14           ` [Bridge] [PATCH] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v5) Jiri Pirko
2009-05-04 11:14             ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05  4:37             ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-05  4:37               ` David Miller
2009-05-05  6:37               ` [Bridge] " Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05  6:37                 ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05 12:48             ` [Bridge] [PATCH] net: introduce a list of device addresses dev_addr_list (v6) Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05 12:48               ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-05 19:27               ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-05 19:27                 ` David Miller
2009-05-08 22:38                 ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 22:38                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 23:00                   ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-08 23:00                     ` David Miller
2009-05-08 23:12                     ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 23:12                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-08 23:25                       ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-08 23:25                         ` David Miller
2009-05-08 23:29                         ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2009-05-08 23:29                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15  8:21   ` [Bridge] [PATCH 2/3] net: bridge: use device address list instead of dev_addr Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:21     ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-06 14:46     ` [Bridge] [PATCH net-next] net: bridge: use device address list instead of dev_addr (repost) Jiri Pirko
2009-05-06 14:46       ` Jiri Pirko
2009-05-06 15:08       ` [Bridge] " Eric Dumazet
2009-05-06 15:08         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-06 19:26       ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-06 19:26         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-05-07 22:03         ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-05-07 22:03           ` David Miller
2009-04-15  8:22   ` [Bridge] [PATCH 3/3] net: bonding: add slave device addresses in mode alb Jiri Pirko
2009-04-15  8:22     ` Jiri Pirko

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