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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Hisashi Hifumi <hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"jens.axboe@oracle.com" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] readahead:add blk_run_backing_dev
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:36:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090527023638.GA27079@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.20.2.20090527110937.0770c420@172.19.0.2>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:21:53AM +0800, Hisashi Hifumi wrote:
>
> At 11:09 09/05/27, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> >On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 08:25:04AM +0800, Hisashi Hifumi wrote:
> >>
> >> At 08:42 09/05/27, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >> >On Fri, 22 May 2009 10:33:23 +0800
> >> >Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > I tested above patch, and I got same performance number.
> >> >> > I wonder why if (PageUptodate(page)) check is there...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks!  This is an interesting micro timing behavior that
> >> >> demands some research work.  The above check is to confirm if it's
> >> >> the PageUptodate() case that makes the difference. So why that case
> >> >> happens so frequently so as to impact the performance? Will it also
> >> >> happen in NFS?
> >> >>
> >> >> The problem is readahead IO pipeline is not running smoothly, which is
> >> >> undesirable and not well understood for now.
> >> >
> >> >The patch causes a remarkably large performance increase.  A 9%
> >> >reduction in time for a linear read? I'd be surprised if the workload
> >>
> >> Hi Andrew.
> >> Yes, I tested this with dd.
> >>
> >> >even consumed 9% of a CPU, so where on earth has the kernel gone to?
> >> >
> >> >Have you been able to reproduce this in your testing?
> >>
> >> Yes, this test on my environment is reproducible.
> >
> >Hisashi, does your environment have some special configurations?
>
> Hi.
> My testing environment is as follows:
> Hardware: HP DL580
> CPU:Xeon 3.2GHz *4 HT enabled
> Memory:8GB
> Storage: Dothill SANNet2 FC (7Disks RAID-0 Array)

This is a big hardware RAID. What's the readahead size?

The numbers look too small for a 7 disk RAID:

        > #dd if=testdir/testfile of=/dev/null bs=16384
        >
        > -2.6.30-rc6
        > 1048576+0 records in
        > 1048576+0 records out
        > 17179869184 bytes (17 GB) copied, 224.182 seconds, 76.6 MB/s
        >
        > -2.6.30-rc6-patched
        > 1048576+0 records in
        > 1048576+0 records out
        > 17179869184 bytes (17 GB) copied, 206.465 seconds, 83.2 MB/s

I'd suggest you to configure the array properly before coming back to
measuring the impact of this patch.

> I did dd to this disk-array and got improved performance number.
>
> I noticed that when a disk is just one HDD, performance improvement
> is very small.

OK. You should mention the single disk and RAID performance earlier.

Thanks,
Fengguang

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Hisashi Hifumi <hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"jens.axboe@oracle.com" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] readahead:add blk_run_backing_dev
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:36:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090527023638.GA27079@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.20.2.20090527110937.0770c420@172.19.0.2>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:21:53AM +0800, Hisashi Hifumi wrote:
>
> At 11:09 09/05/27, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> >On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 08:25:04AM +0800, Hisashi Hifumi wrote:
> >>
> >> At 08:42 09/05/27, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >> >On Fri, 22 May 2009 10:33:23 +0800
> >> >Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > I tested above patch, and I got same performance number.
> >> >> > I wonder why if (PageUptodate(page)) check is there...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks!  This is an interesting micro timing behavior that
> >> >> demands some research work.  The above check is to confirm if it's
> >> >> the PageUptodate() case that makes the difference. So why that case
> >> >> happens so frequently so as to impact the performance? Will it also
> >> >> happen in NFS?
> >> >>
> >> >> The problem is readahead IO pipeline is not running smoothly, which is
> >> >> undesirable and not well understood for now.
> >> >
> >> >The patch causes a remarkably large performance increase.  A 9%
> >> >reduction in time for a linear read? I'd be surprised if the workload
> >>
> >> Hi Andrew.
> >> Yes, I tested this with dd.
> >>
> >> >even consumed 9% of a CPU, so where on earth has the kernel gone to?
> >> >
> >> >Have you been able to reproduce this in your testing?
> >>
> >> Yes, this test on my environment is reproducible.
> >
> >Hisashi, does your environment have some special configurations?
>
> Hi.
> My testing environment is as follows:
> Hardware: HP DL580
> CPU:Xeon 3.2GHz *4 HT enabled
> Memory:8GB
> Storage: Dothill SANNet2 FC (7Disks RAID-0 Array)

This is a big hardware RAID. What's the readahead size?

The numbers look too small for a 7 disk RAID:

        > #dd if=testdir/testfile of=/dev/null bs=16384
        >
        > -2.6.30-rc6
        > 1048576+0 records in
        > 1048576+0 records out
        > 17179869184 bytes (17 GB) copied, 224.182 seconds, 76.6 MB/s
        >
        > -2.6.30-rc6-patched
        > 1048576+0 records in
        > 1048576+0 records out
        > 17179869184 bytes (17 GB) copied, 206.465 seconds, 83.2 MB/s

I'd suggest you to configure the array properly before coming back to
measuring the impact of this patch.

> I did dd to this disk-array and got improved performance number.
>
> I noticed that when a disk is just one HDD, performance improvement
> is very small.

OK. You should mention the single disk and RAID performance earlier.

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-27  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-18  9:38 [PATCH] readahead:add blk_run_backing_dev Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-18 17:53 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-19  0:44   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-19 10:05   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-20  0:55   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-20  2:51   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-20  2:51     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-21  6:01     ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-21  6:01       ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-22  1:05       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-22  1:05         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-22  1:44         ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-22  1:44           ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-22  2:33           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-22  2:33             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-26 23:42             ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-26 23:42               ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-27  0:25               ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  0:25                 ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  0:25                 ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  2:09                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  2:09                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  2:21                   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  2:21                     ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  2:35                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-27  2:35                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-27  2:36                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-27  2:36                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-27  2:38                       ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  2:38                         ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  3:55                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  3:55                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  4:06                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-27  4:06                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-27  4:36                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  4:36                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  6:20                             ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  6:20                               ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-28  1:20                             ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-28  1:20                               ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-28  2:23                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-28  2:23                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-01  1:39                                 ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  1:39                                   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  1:39                                   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  2:23                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-01  2:23                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-27  2:36                     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-05-27  2:36                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  2:47                       ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  2:47                         ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  2:57                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  2:57                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  3:06                           ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  3:06                             ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-27  3:26                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-27  3:26                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-01  2:37                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01  2:37                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01  2:51                               ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  2:51                                 ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  3:02                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01  3:02                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01  3:06                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-01  3:06                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-01  3:07                                   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  3:07                                     ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  4:30                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01  4:30                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  2:07               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-27  2:07                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-20  1:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-20  1:07   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-20  1:43   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-20  1:43     ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-05-20  2:52     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-20  2:52       ` Wu Fengguang

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