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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	cl@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Warn if we run out of swap space
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:15:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090602091544.GC15756@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A242F94.9010704@redhat.com>

On Mon 2009-06-01 22:44:20, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> We really should have a machine readable channel for this sort of  
>>> information, so it can be plumbed to a userspace notification bubble 
>>> the user can ignore.
>>>     
>>
>> That could just be printk().  It's a question of a) how to tell
>> userspace which bits to pay attention to and maybe b) adding some
>> more structure to the text.
>>
>> Perhaps careful use of faciliy levels would suffice for a), but I
>> expect that some new tagging scheme would be more practical.
>>   
>
> I thought dmesg was an unreliable channel which can overflow.  It's also  
> prone to attacks by spell checkers.
>
> I prefer reliable binary interfaces to shell explorable text interfaces  
> as I think any feature worth having is much more useful controlled by an  
> application rather than a bored sysadmin.

Ouch and please... don't stop useful printk() warnings just because
some 'pie-in-the-sky future binary protocol'. That's what happened in
ACPI land with battery critical, and it is also why I don't get
battery warnings on some of my machines.

State-of-the art userspace should not be required for reasonable
operation...
								Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-22 18:58 [PATCH] Warn if we run out of swap space Christoph Lameter
2009-05-22 20:47 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-23  4:38 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-25  0:53   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-05-24 13:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-25  2:42   ` Randy Dunlap
2009-05-26  0:40     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-26  1:05       ` Randy Dunlap
2009-05-26  1:08         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-26  3:29     ` Paul Mundt
2009-05-26 14:23       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-26 20:15         ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-26 20:45           ` Randy Dunlap
2009-05-26 20:55             ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-27  0:25               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-05-26 20:54           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-26 21:01             ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-26 21:05               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-27  0:42         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-05-27 13:54           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-04  6:02             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-01 16:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-01 17:29   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-01 17:38     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-01 19:35   ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-01 19:44     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-02  9:14       ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-02  9:19         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-02  9:15       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-06-02  9:21         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-02  9:30           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-02  9:50             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-02  9:23         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-02  9:26           ` Pavel Machek

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