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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>
Cc: Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi>,
	Luis Rodriguez <Luis.Rodriguez@atheros.com>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, "corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"torvalds@linux-foundation.org" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com" <tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Documentation: add documentation for rc-series and merge window
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:19:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090619221909.GC2229@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43e72e890906191010v4b2e79a5x2c7b722b8209933c@mail.gmail.com>


> >> +2.0.2: RC-SERIES RULES
> >> +
> >> +Rules on what kind of patches are accepted after the merge window closes.
> >> +These are patches targeted for the kernel rc-series of a kernel prior
> >> +to its release.
> >> +
> >> + - it must fix a reported regression
> >> + - it must fix a reported security hole
> >> + - it must fix a reported oops/kernel hang
> >
> > - it must fix a bug.
> 
> Well that's for certain, but there is a difference between a general
> notion of a bug and the type of bug fixes that should go in during the
> rc-series. This documentation patch highlights the difference.

Yes, and I'm trying to tell you that this documentation patch is
wrong.

Non-intrusive bugfixes _are_ welcome after -rc1.

> > I do not think the 'reported' requirement is there in -rc,
> 
> Well if its not reported how else would you find out about it during
> the rc-series? And if its something easily triggerable that should
> have been fixed earlier, not late in the rc-series.

'reported' means 'someone is hitting that bug' in that context. If you
do code inspection on drivers/foo/bar.c and find that it will hang on
may 13, 2017; then that's a bug but not "reported" one -- users are
not hitting it. Such bug may be uninteresting for -stable, but would
probably be ok for -rc.

> > and yes,
> > compile-fixes etc are welcome.
> 
> Sure, but what are these doing so late in the rc-series?

Bugs happen :-).

> > Non-intrusive bugfixes too, afaict.
> 
> It really depends on what you mean but generally no, and this is why I
> think this clarification is important.

I believe you are wrong.
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez-DlyHzToyqoxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi>,
	Luis Rodriguez
	<Luis.Rodriguez-DlyHzToyqoxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org"
	<corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org"
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	"akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org"
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	"alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org"
	<alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"tshibata-zZGIbrA41Td8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org"
	<tshibata-zZGIbrA41Td8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Documentation: add documentation for rc-series and merge window
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:19:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090619221909.GC2229@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43e72e890906191010v4b2e79a5x2c7b722b8209933c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>


> >> +2.0.2: RC-SERIES RULES
> >> +
> >> +Rules on what kind of patches are accepted after the merge window closes.
> >> +These are patches targeted for the kernel rc-series of a kernel prior
> >> +to its release.
> >> +
> >> + - it must fix a reported regression
> >> + - it must fix a reported security hole
> >> + - it must fix a reported oops/kernel hang
> >
> > - it must fix a bug.
> 
> Well that's for certain, but there is a difference between a general
> notion of a bug and the type of bug fixes that should go in during the
> rc-series. This documentation patch highlights the difference.

Yes, and I'm trying to tell you that this documentation patch is
wrong.

Non-intrusive bugfixes _are_ welcome after -rc1.

> > I do not think the 'reported' requirement is there in -rc,
> 
> Well if its not reported how else would you find out about it during
> the rc-series? And if its something easily triggerable that should
> have been fixed earlier, not late in the rc-series.

'reported' means 'someone is hitting that bug' in that context. If you
do code inspection on drivers/foo/bar.c and find that it will hang on
may 13, 2017; then that's a bug but not "reported" one -- users are
not hitting it. Such bug may be uninteresting for -stable, but would
probably be ok for -rc.

> > and yes,
> > compile-fixes etc are welcome.
> 
> Sure, but what are these doing so late in the rc-series?

Bugs happen :-).

> > Non-intrusive bugfixes too, afaict.
> 
> It really depends on what you mean but generally no, and this is why I
> think this clarification is important.

I believe you are wrong.
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-19 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-15 20:12 [RFC] Documentation: add documentation for rc-series and merge window Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-15 20:12 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-15 20:18 ` John W. Linville
2009-06-15 20:19 ` Greg KH
2009-06-15 20:19   ` Greg KH
2009-06-15 21:47   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-15 22:32     ` Greg KH
2009-06-15 22:32       ` Greg KH
2009-06-16  0:41       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-16  2:10         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-16  3:20           ` Greg KH
2009-06-16  3:20             ` Greg KH
2009-06-16  4:21             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-16  4:21               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-16  4:39               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-16  4:39                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-16  5:16               ` Greg KH
2009-06-16  5:16                 ` Greg KH
2009-06-16  9:34               ` Jouni Malinen
2009-06-16  9:34                 ` Jouni Malinen
2009-06-16 16:19                 ` Stefan Richter
2009-06-16 16:19                   ` Stefan Richter
2009-06-16 18:17                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-16 18:17                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-19 15:00                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 17:10                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-19 17:10                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-19 17:41                       ` Justin Mattock
2009-06-19 17:41                         ` Justin Mattock
2009-06-19 17:41                         ` Justin Mattock
2009-06-20  1:35                         ` netlink interface change and crash while feeing associated sk_buff Vinay Venkataraghavan
2009-06-19 22:19                       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-06-19 22:19                         ` [RFC] Documentation: add documentation for rc-series and merge window Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 22:49                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-06-19 22:49                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-06-19 22:51                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-19 22:51                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-21  6:24                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 22:56                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-21  0:47                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-21  0:47                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-21  0:47                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-15 20:31 ` Pavel Roskin
2009-06-15 20:40   ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-06-15 20:40     ` Gábor Stefanik

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