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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Matt Carlson <mcarlson@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] virtio_net: return NETDEV_TX_BUSY instead of queueing an extra skb.
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:09:15 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906221209.16481.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090619141014.GA19828@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:40:14 pm Herbert Xu wrote:
> > On the other hand, we're underutilizing the queue to avoid it.  I find
> > that a little embarrassing.
>
> Here's why I think this is not an issue.  If your NIC is high
> bandwidth then your ring is going to have to be huge so the
> amount that is underutilised (a 64K packet) is tiny.  If your
> NIC is low bandwidth then this is where you often need QoS and
> in that case you do *NOT* want to fully utilise the HW queue.

Well, we leave that up to the NIC designer.  It's retro-justification for 
throwing away a few percent of the queue, but the QoS issue is even more in 
the noise.

But I will give in now and change virtio_net to use this substandard API :(

Thanks,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-22  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-29 14:16 [PATCH 2/4] virtio_net: return NETDEV_TX_BUSY instead of queueing an extra skb Rusty Russell
2009-06-02  8:07 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-02  8:07 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-02 14:04   ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-02 14:04   ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-02  9:05 ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-02  9:05 ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-02 13:55   ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-02 23:45     ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-03  3:17       ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-03  3:17       ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-08  5:22         ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-13 12:30           ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-14  6:45             ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-14  6:45             ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-18  7:17               ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-18  7:17               ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-18  7:34                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-19  3:37                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-19  3:37                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-19  4:36                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-19  4:36                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-19 13:50                       ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-19 14:10                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-22  2:39                           ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2009-06-22  2:39                           ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-19 14:10                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-19 13:50                       ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-22  5:46                       ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-06-22  5:46                       ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-06-22  7:34                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-22  7:34                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-22 13:41                           ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-06-22 13:41                           ` Krishna Kumar2
2009-06-22 18:25                           ` Matt Carlson
2009-06-23  2:54                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-23  2:54                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-22 18:25                           ` Matt Carlson
2009-06-18  7:34                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-13 12:30           ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-08  5:22         ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-02 23:45     ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-02 13:55   ` Rusty Russell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-29 14:16 Rusty Russell

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