From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, ehabkost@redhat.com,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 11/11] QMP: Command-line flag to enable control mode
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:48:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090623114833.GJ6881@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A40BC66.8040206@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 02:28:38PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 06/23/2009 01:54 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>It would be a nightmare, consider both libvirt and a user hotplugging
> >>something into the same pci slot, or a user starting migration, or
> >>quitting, or ...
> >>
> >
> >Migration, yes, but hot-plugging is resolvable - given config update
> >events.
> >
>
> I'm not saying it's impossible, just that we don't want to do it.
>
> >>Having -monitor readonly makes sense.
> >>
> >
> >But not for all features, only those libvirt is capable to handle (I
> >think there are quite a few qemu specifics libvirt does not bother
> >about) and only as long as there is no proper synchronization. Again,
> >migration and save/restore will continue to require exclusive access,
> >but the rest is just a question of proper synchronization IMHO.
> >
>
> If libvirt "doesn't bother" about something useful, that's a libvirt
> bug. It's wierd to have something controlled by two parallel management
> channels.
It is not neccessaryily a 'bug'. The issue is that there is always a
potential time lag between a feature appearing in QEMU, and it being
fully supported in libvirt. So it is not a case of "doesnt' bother",
but rather 'not yet known about'. I think we should make it possible
for apps to be robust in this scenario, by allowing them to lockdown
2ndary monitor channels readonly.
Regards,
Daniel
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2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] QMP: Introduce specification file Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 9:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:22 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:06 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 17:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:15 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 15:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 15:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 18:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 18:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 19:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 19:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 20:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 20:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 22:02 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 22:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-24 1:01 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 11:55 ` James
2009-06-24 12:09 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 12:32 ` James
2009-06-24 12:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 14:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-24 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-24 13:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 13:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 16:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 18:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 17:39 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 18:23 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 18:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 18:42 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 18:55 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 18:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 13:34 ` Ian Jackson
2009-06-24 16:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 14:03 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-25 19:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-24 14:06 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 14:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-24 14:56 ` Chris Webb
2009-06-24 19:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 15:57 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 16:42 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 19:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 19:24 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 21:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 21:29 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 21:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 13:07 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-25 14:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 15:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 17:04 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-25 18:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 19:03 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 11:41 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-25 18:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 18:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 9:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 13:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 17:36 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-26 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 20:25 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-28 17:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 9:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 10:09 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-27 7:03 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 12:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-28 17:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-29 6:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 9:48 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 20:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 5:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 13:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-30 13:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 14:03 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-30 16:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 18:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 8:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 14:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 14:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:38 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-26 11:36 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 16:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-23 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:59 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 15:41 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/11] QMP: Introduce MONITOR_USE_CONTROL flag Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/11] QMP: Introduce protocol print functions Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 13:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/11] QMP: Make monitor_handle_command() QMP aware Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 17:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] QMP: Introduce control mode chardev handling Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/11] QMP: Introduce asynchronous events infrastructure Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 13:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 10:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 14:46 ` Paul Brook
2009-06-23 10:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:36 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:48 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 13:51 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/11] QMP: Enable simple commands Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/11] QMP: Port balloon command Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 18:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 11:27 ` Dor Laor
2009-06-25 19:11 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-26 9:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-27 15:58 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-28 15:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 16:30 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-28 17:23 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 17:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:51 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-28 18:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 22:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/11] QMP: Port 'info blockstats' command Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 9:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 10:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/11] QMP: Introduce basic events Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:07 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 4:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/11] QMP: Command-line flag to enable control mode Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 10:54 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 11:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 11:51 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 12:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2009-06-23 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 13:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 17:27 ` Luiz Capitulino
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