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From: Jake Edge <jake@lwn.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com" <tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3.1415] Documentation: add documentation summary for rc-series and merge window
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:23:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090623132316.28a4a348@chukar> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906231210040.3240@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Linus Torvalds wrote:

> In fact, this whole discussion has shown one thing: people still
> think that "bug fix" somehow automatically means that it's
> appropriate after the merge window. That's simply not so. 

Makes sense.  It certainly is counter-intuitive sometimes, though.
Just to clarify, there would seem to be one other category of bugs that
is reasonable post-merge-window: those introduced by new features (or
bug fixes) that were added during the merge window (i.e. something
found in testing the new code during the -rc cycle). Those don't
necessarily have to be security/oops problems and, for the most part,
can't be regressions (at least for new features).  Or should those
wait, by and large, for the next merge window?

jake

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From: Jake Edge <jake-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Halasa <khc-9GfyWEdoJtJmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez"
	<lrodriguez-DlyHzToyqoxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org"
	<corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org"
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	"alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org"
	<alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"tshibata-zZGIbrA41Td8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org"
	<tshibata-zZGIbrA41Td8UrSeD/g0lQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3.1415] Documentation: add documentation summary for rc-series and merge window
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:23:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090623132316.28a4a348@chukar> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906231210040.3240-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Linus Torvalds wrote:

> In fact, this whole discussion has shown one thing: people still
> think that "bug fix" somehow automatically means that it's
> appropriate after the merge window. That's simply not so. 

Makes sense.  It certainly is counter-intuitive sometimes, though.
Just to clarify, there would seem to be one other category of bugs that
is reasonable post-merge-window: those introduced by new features (or
bug fixes) that were added during the merge window (i.e. something
found in testing the new code during the -rc cycle). Those don't
necessarily have to be security/oops problems and, for the most part,
can't be regressions (at least for new features).  Or should those
wait, by and large, for the next merge window?

jake

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-23 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-22 22:22 [PATCH v3.1415] Documentation: add documentation summary for rc-series and merge window Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-23  0:58 ` Li Zefan
2009-06-23  0:58   ` Li Zefan
2009-06-23 17:18 ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 17:18   ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 17:55   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-23 17:55     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-23 18:37     ` Greg KH
2009-06-23 19:02     ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 19:02       ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 18:52   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-06-23 19:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23 19:06     ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 19:06       ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 19:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23 19:23         ` Jake Edge [this message]
2009-06-23 19:23           ` Jake Edge
2009-06-23 19:43         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-06-23 19:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23 19:49             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23 20:45         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-23 20:45           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-23 20:45           ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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