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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, jdb@comx.dk
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] fix RCU-callback-after-kmem_cache_destroy problem in sl[aou]b
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:00:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090630060031.GL7070@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1246320394.21295.105.camel@calx>

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 07:06:34PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 19:19 -0400, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > 
> > > This is a reasonable point, and in keeping with the design principle
> > > 'callers should handle their own special cases'. However, I think it
> > > would be more than a little surprising for kmem_cache_free() to do the
> > > right thing, but not kmem_cache_destroy().
> > 
> > kmem_cache_free() must be used carefully when using SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU.
> > The freed object can be accessed after free until the rcu interval
> > expires (well sortof, it may even be reallocated within the interval).
> > 
> > There are special RCU considerations coming already with the use of
> > kmem_cache_free().
> > 
> > Adding RCU operations to the kmem_cache_destroy() logic may result in
> > unnecessary RCU actions for slabs where the coder is ensuring that the
> > RCU interval has passed by other means.
> 
> Do we care? Cache destruction shouldn't be in anyone's fast path.
> Correctness is more important and users are more liable to be correct
> with this patch.

I am with Matt on this one -- if we are going to hand the users of
SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU a hand grenade, let's at least leave the pin in.

							Thanx, Paul

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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, jdb@comx.dk
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] fix RCU-callback-after-kmem_cache_destroy problem in sl[aou]b
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:00:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090630060031.GL7070@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1246320394.21295.105.camel@calx>

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 07:06:34PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 19:19 -0400, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > 
> > > This is a reasonable point, and in keeping with the design principle
> > > 'callers should handle their own special cases'. However, I think it
> > > would be more than a little surprising for kmem_cache_free() to do the
> > > right thing, but not kmem_cache_destroy().
> > 
> > kmem_cache_free() must be used carefully when using SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU.
> > The freed object can be accessed after free until the rcu interval
> > expires (well sortof, it may even be reallocated within the interval).
> > 
> > There are special RCU considerations coming already with the use of
> > kmem_cache_free().
> > 
> > Adding RCU operations to the kmem_cache_destroy() logic may result in
> > unnecessary RCU actions for slabs where the coder is ensuring that the
> > RCU interval has passed by other means.
> 
> Do we care? Cache destruction shouldn't be in anyone's fast path.
> Correctness is more important and users are more liable to be correct
> with this patch.

I am with Matt on this one -- if we are going to hand the users of
SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU a hand grenade, let's at least leave the pin in.

							Thanx, Paul

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-30  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-25 19:31 [PATCH RFC] fix RCU-callback-after-kmem_cache_destroy problem in sl[aou]b Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-25 19:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-25 21:27 ` Matt Mackall
2009-06-25 21:27   ` Matt Mackall
2009-06-25 22:08   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-25 22:08     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-26  8:45     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-26  8:45       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-26  9:03   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-26  9:03     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-26  9:11     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-26  9:11       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-29 22:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-29 22:30   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-29 22:45   ` Matt Mackall
2009-06-29 22:45     ` Matt Mackall
2009-06-29 23:19     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-29 23:19       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30  0:06       ` Matt Mackall
2009-06-30  0:06         ` Matt Mackall
2009-06-30  6:00         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-06-30  6:00           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-30  6:58           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-30  6:58             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-30 14:20             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 14:20               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 14:26               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-30 14:26                 ` Pekka Enberg

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