[linux-lvm] Aligning PVs on SSDs?

[linux-lvm] Aligning PVs on SSDs?

[Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk]

Hi

I came across an article on http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/02/20/aligning-filesystems-to-an-ssds-erase-block-size/ 
  about filesystem alignment. This mentions some issues about aligning  
PVs in 128k bounderies. See snipped-out text from the article below.

Are there flags like these or similar in helping admins using SSDs  
more efficiently?

roy

> ...
> So I created a 1 gigabyte /boot partition as /dev/sdb1, and  
> allocated the rest of the SSD for use by LVM as /dev/sdb2. And  
> that’s where I ran into my next problem. LVM likes to allocate 192k  
> for its header information, and 192k is not a multiple of 128k. So  
> if you are creating file systems as logical volumes, and you want  
> those volume to be properly aligned you have to tell LVM that it  
> should reserve slightly more space for its meta-data, so that the  
> physical extents that it allocates for its logical volumes are  
> properly aligned. Unfortunately, the way this is done is slightly  
> baroque:
>
> # pvcreate –metadatasize 250k /dev/sdb2
> Physical volume “/dev/sdb2″ successfully created
>
> Why 250k and not 256k? I can’t tell you — sometimes the LVM tools  
> aren’t terribly intuitive. However, you can test to make sure that  
> physical extents start at the proper offset by using:
>
> # pvs /dev/sdb2 -o+pe_start
> PV         VG   Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree  1st PE
> /dev/sdb2       lvm2 –   73.52G 73.52G 256.00K
>
> If you use a metadata size of 256k, the first PE will be at 320k  
> instead of 256k. There really ought to be an –pe-align option to  
> pvcreate, which would be far more user-friendly, but, we have to  
> work with the tools that we have. Maybe in the next version of the  
> LVM support tools….
> ...
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[linux-lvm] Re: Aligning PVs on SSDs?

[Mike Snitzer]

Roy,

You want to use: pvcreate --dataalignment 128k /dev/sdXX

This will guarantee that the start of the data area (pe_start) is
aligned on a 128k boundary.

Mike

On Sat, Jul 11 2009 at  6:23am -0400,
Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy@karlsbakk.net> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I came across an article on 
> http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/02/20/aligning-filesystems-to-an-ssds-erase-block-size/ 
>  about filesystem alignment. This mentions some issues about aligning  
> PVs in 128k bounderies. See snipped-out text from the article below.
>
> Are there flags like these or similar in helping admins using SSDs more 
> efficiently?
>
> roy
>
>> ...
>> So I created a 1 gigabyte /boot partition as /dev/sdb1, and allocated 
>> the rest of the SSD for use by LVM as /dev/sdb2. And that’s where I ran 
>> into my next problem. LVM likes to allocate 192k for its header 
>> information, and 192k is not a multiple of 128k. So if you are creating 
>> file systems as logical volumes, and you want those volume to be 
>> properly aligned you have to tell LVM that it should reserve slightly 
>> more space for its meta-data, so that the physical extents that it 
>> allocates for its logical volumes are properly aligned. Unfortunately, 
>> the way this is done is slightly baroque:
>>
>> # pvcreate –metadatasize 250k /dev/sdb2
>> Physical volume “/dev/sdb2″ successfully created
>>
>> Why 250k and not 256k? I can’t tell you — sometimes the LVM tools  
>> aren’t terribly intuitive. However, you can test to make sure that  
>> physical extents start at the proper offset by using:
>>
>> # pvs /dev/sdb2 -o+pe_start
>> PV         VG   Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree  1st PE
>> /dev/sdb2       lvm2 –   73.52G 73.52G 256.00K
>>
>> If you use a metadata size of 256k, the first PE will be at 320k  
>> instead of 256k. There really ought to be an –pe-align option to  
>> pvcreate, which would be far more user-friendly, but, we have to work 
>> with the tools that we have. Maybe in the next version of the LVM 
>> support tools….
>> ...
> --
> Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> (+47) 97542685
> roy@karlsbakk.net
> http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/
> --
> I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. 
> Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv 
> anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller 
> eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk.
>
>
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