From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Lai
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] tracing: Syscalls trace events + perf support
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:25:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090818102507.GA5231@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090818004654.GA4402@linux-sh.org>
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:46:55AM +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> [ Adding to Cc everyone that now has a broken tree thanks to this .. ]
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:11:33AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This pull request integrate one cleanup/fix for ftrace and an
> > > update for syscall tracing: the migration from old-style tracer to
> > > individual tracepoints/trace_events and the support for perf
> > > counter.
> > >
> > > I've tested it with success either with ftrace (every syscall
> > > tracepoints enabled at the same time without problems) and with
> > > perfcounter.
> > >
> > > May be one drawback: it creates so much trace events that the
> > > ftrace selftests can take some time :-)
> >
> > Pulled, thanks a lot!
> >
> And this has now subsequently broken every single SH and S390
> configuration, and anyone else unfortunate enough to be supporting ftrace
> syscall tracing that isn't x86, without so much as a Cc, well done!
>
> The s390 case can be fixed up in-tree as support has already been merged,
> but in the SH case we had ftrace syscall tracing queued up for 2.6.32, so
> it doesn't show up in -tip, but the end result in -next is now completely
> broken.
>
> I'm not sure how we should handle this, if tracing/core in -tip isn't
> rebased, should I just pull the topic-branch in to my tree, fix up the sh
> support on top of that, and push the end result out? This seems like the
> easiest option at least, but I don't know what other dependencies exist
> for tracing/core. Alternative suggestions welcome.
>
> This happens again and again with ftrace and -tip, where people just
> randomly change existing interfaces, break all of the existing users, and
> then fail to tell anyone about it until it shows up in -next. Even if we
> had pushed all of the sh ftrace bits to the -tip tree early on it would
> not have changed anything, evident by the fact that s390 and all of the
> non ftrace syscall architectures were broken by this change as well (the
> latter case was at least caught and corrected, although not by the
> original authors of this patch series). Is it really that much to task
> that people who are running around breaking ftrace interfaces actually
> bother to Cc the architectures that are using it?
I've just retrieved the concerned commit in the sh tree:
sh: Add ftrace syscall tracing support (c652d780c9cf7f860141de232b37160fe013feca)
Was I cc'ed on this one? I can't find it in my inbox. Unless I'm wrong
and I missed it, how could I guess I had to cc you and how am I supposed
to fix something I'm even not aware of?
I can't find the s390 patch in my inbox either (was I cc'ed ?)
([S390] ftrace: add system call tracer support) but we should have fixed
this one because it was already upstream and a git-grep ftrace_syscall_enter
would have warned us about that.
I didn't know another arch was supporting syscall tracing (except mips because
I was cc'ed, but it doesn't seem upstream nor in the mips tree).
>
> If -tip is going to perpetuate this sort of half-assed development
> methodology, it has no place in -next.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
Jiaying Zhang <jiayingz@google.com>,
Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Wu Zhangjin <wuzj@lemote.com>,
linux-next@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] tracing: Syscalls trace events + perf support
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:25:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090818102507.GA5231@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090818004654.GA4402@linux-sh.org>
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:46:55AM +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> [ Adding to Cc everyone that now has a broken tree thanks to this .. ]
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:11:33AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > This pull request integrate one cleanup/fix for ftrace and an
> > > update for syscall tracing: the migration from old-style tracer to
> > > individual tracepoints/trace_events and the support for perf
> > > counter.
> > >
> > > I've tested it with success either with ftrace (every syscall
> > > tracepoints enabled at the same time without problems) and with
> > > perfcounter.
> > >
> > > May be one drawback: it creates so much trace events that the
> > > ftrace selftests can take some time :-)
> >
> > Pulled, thanks a lot!
> >
> And this has now subsequently broken every single SH and S390
> configuration, and anyone else unfortunate enough to be supporting ftrace
> syscall tracing that isn't x86, without so much as a Cc, well done!
>
> The s390 case can be fixed up in-tree as support has already been merged,
> but in the SH case we had ftrace syscall tracing queued up for 2.6.32, so
> it doesn't show up in -tip, but the end result in -next is now completely
> broken.
>
> I'm not sure how we should handle this, if tracing/core in -tip isn't
> rebased, should I just pull the topic-branch in to my tree, fix up the sh
> support on top of that, and push the end result out? This seems like the
> easiest option at least, but I don't know what other dependencies exist
> for tracing/core. Alternative suggestions welcome.
>
> This happens again and again with ftrace and -tip, where people just
> randomly change existing interfaces, break all of the existing users, and
> then fail to tell anyone about it until it shows up in -next. Even if we
> had pushed all of the sh ftrace bits to the -tip tree early on it would
> not have changed anything, evident by the fact that s390 and all of the
> non ftrace syscall architectures were broken by this change as well (the
> latter case was at least caught and corrected, although not by the
> original authors of this patch series). Is it really that much to task
> that people who are running around breaking ftrace interfaces actually
> bother to Cc the architectures that are using it?
I've just retrieved the concerned commit in the sh tree:
sh: Add ftrace syscall tracing support (c652d780c9cf7f860141de232b37160fe013feca)
Was I cc'ed on this one? I can't find it in my inbox. Unless I'm wrong
and I missed it, how could I guess I had to cc you and how am I supposed
to fix something I'm even not aware of?
I can't find the s390 patch in my inbox either (was I cc'ed ?)
([S390] ftrace: add system call tracer support) but we should have fixed
this one because it was already upstream and a git-grep ftrace_syscall_enter
would have warned us about that.
I didn't know another arch was supporting syscall tracing (except mips because
I was cc'ed, but it doesn't seem upstream nor in the mips tree).
>
> If -tip is going to perpetuate this sort of half-assed development
> methodology, it has no place in -next.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-18 10:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-11 18:48 [GIT PULL] tracing: Syscalls trace events + perf support Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 01/16] tracing: Rename set_tracer_flags()'s local variable trace_flags Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 02/16] tracing: Map syscall name to number Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 03/16] tracing: Call arch_init_ftrace_syscalls at boot Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 04/16] tracing: Add DECLARE_TRACE_WITH_CALLBACK() macro Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 05/16] tracing: Add syscall tracepoints Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 06/16] tracing: Update FTRACE_SYSCALL_MAX Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 07/16] tracing: Raw_init() bailout in trace event register fail case Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 08/16] tracing: Add ftrace_event_call void * 'data' field Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 09/16] tracing: Add trace events for each syscall entry/exit Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:48 ` [PATCH 10/16] tracing: Add individual syscalls tracepoint id support Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:49 ` [PATCH 11/16] tracing: Add perf counter support for syscalls tracing Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:49 ` [PATCH 12/16] tracing: Add more namespace area to 'perf list' output Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:49 ` [PATCH 13/16] tracing: Convert x86_64 mmap and uname to use DEFINE_SYSCALL Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:49 ` [PATCH 14/16] tracing: Add ftrace event call parameter to its field descriptor handler Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-11 18:49 ` [PATCH 15/16] tracing: Add fields format definition for syscall events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-19 17:12 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-08-19 17:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-20 1:07 ` Li Zefan
2009-08-11 18:49 ` [PATCH 16/16] tracing: Support for syscall events raw records in perfcounters Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-12 9:11 ` [GIT PULL] tracing: Syscalls trace events + perf support Ingo Molnar
2009-08-12 11:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-12 11:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-12 14:25 ` Jason Baron
2009-08-12 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-12 14:37 ` Jason Baron
2009-08-12 11:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-12 13:59 ` Jason Baron
2009-08-12 14:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-18 0:46 ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-18 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-18 7:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-18 8:51 ` [S390] ftrace: update system call tracer support Ingo Molnar
2009-08-18 8:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-18 8:59 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-08-18 10:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-18 10:22 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-08-18 14:56 ` Jason Baron
2009-08-18 10:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-08-18 10:25 ` [GIT PULL] tracing: Syscalls trace events + perf support Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-18 11:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-18 11:56 ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-12 16:33 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-08-12 17:02 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-08-12 19:13 ` [RFD] Kprobes/Kretprobes " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-12 20:20 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-08-13 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-12 21:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-12 21:27 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-08-12 21:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-12 21:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-14 15:05 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-08-15 14:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 21:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
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