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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <Chuck.Lever@oracle.com>,
	NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tom Haynes <Thomas.Haynes-UdXhSnd/wVw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: mount.nfs: access denied by server
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:41:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090824174129.GD4985@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1251133618.6325.262.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 01:06:58PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 12:10 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 05:51:02PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 17:47 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 05:40:36PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 17:30 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > > > > 	3c1bb23c037, first in 1.1.3, removes AUTH_NULL from that static
> > > > > > 		list.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does the server support auth_null security? I didn't think it did.
> > > > 
> > > > Just off the top of my head, without looking at the code: I believe it
> > > > treats auth_null rpc calls exactly as if they were auth_sys calls with
> > > > uid and gid set to the "anonymous" uid and gid.
> > > 
> > > OK, so that would break too.
> > 
> > I've lost track of the antecedent to "that".
> 
> Negotiating AUTH_NULL security for those mountd programs that fake up a
> list of flavours that excludes AUTH_NULL.

OK, got it.

(And note (a reminder to anyone that forgot) the omission of AUTH_NULL
is a workaround for a bug in older mount.nfs which caused the client to
prefer flavors at the end of the list.  (Fixed in 3c1bb23c03, which went
into 1.1.3.  When was that bug introduced?)  That means some clients
read the list forwards, and some backwards, so if you want clients to
avoid picking AUTH_NULL by default, there's no safe place to put it.
Since AUTH_NULL seems rarely needed, it seemed best just to leave it
off.)

Anyway, we could add a second special case on the client side that
allowed an explicit sec=null to bypass checking against the server list.
I don't know who actually needs mounts with sec=null.

And/or we could plan to put AUTH_NULL back on the server's list some
day, depending on how widely disseminated we think the backwards mount
behavior was....

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-24 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20  7:13 mount.nfs: access denied by server Wu Fengguang
2009-08-20  7:19 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-20 13:02 ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]   ` <1250773349.5352.23.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21  1:27     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-21  1:27       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-21  2:36       ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]         ` <1250822171.6514.29.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 17:50           ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 17:50             ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-22  1:48             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-21 18:16         ` Fwd: " Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 18:20           ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-21 20:20             ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-24 12:15             ` Fwd: " Steve Dickson
2009-08-21 18:24           ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-21 18:46             ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 20:04               ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-21 20:18                 ` Tom Haynes
     [not found]                   ` <4A8F0118.60705-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 20:39                     ` Peter Staubach
2009-08-21 20:59                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-21 21:08                         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                           ` <1250888892.5700.7.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 21:21                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-21 20:36                 ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 21:15                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                     ` <1250889345.5700.11.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 21:21                       ` Tom Haynes
     [not found]                         ` <4A8F0FCC.2080709-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 21:25                           ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-21 21:30                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-21 21:40                         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                           ` <1250890836.5700.19.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 21:47                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-21 21:51                               ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                 ` <1250891463.5700.21.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-24 16:10                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-24 16:22                                     ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-24 17:06                                     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                       ` <1251133618.6325.262.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-24 17:41                                         ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2009-08-25 15:36                                           ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-25 16:49                                             ` Tom Haynes
     [not found]                                               ` <4A94162C.20904-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 16:58                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                   ` <1251219492.25372.3.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 18:17                                                     ` Tom Haynes
     [not found]                                                       ` <4A942ACF.4030502-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 18:39                                                         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                           ` <1251225543.25372.22.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 18:43                                                             ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                               ` <1251225797.25372.25.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 22:17                                                                 ` Tom Haynes
     [not found]                                                                   ` <4A9462E4.5020404-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 23:20                                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                                       ` <1251242416.5403.3.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 23:37                                                                         ` [nfs-discuss] " Nicolas Williams
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20090825233758.GZ1033-UdXhSnd/wVw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-26  0:21                                                                             ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                                               ` <1251246105.5403.12.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-26 21:03                                                                                 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-08-25 17:40                                                 ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-25 18:02                                                   ` Tom Haynes
2009-08-25 18:10                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-08-25 19:05                                                     ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 22:21                             ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 21:41                         ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 19:07             ` Thomas Haynes
     [not found]               ` <760BE185-BE57-42C2-817C-6776B5B66667-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 19:22                 ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 19:40                   ` Tom Haynes
     [not found]                     ` <4A8EF847.8030500-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 20:04                       ` Chuck Lever
2009-08-21 20:41                   ` Peter Staubach

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