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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: arjan@infradead.org, jeremy@goop.org, mschmidt@redhat.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tj@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kthreads: Fix startup synchronization boot crash
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:00:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090901160043.GA6708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090901155427.GA18078@elte.hu>

On 09/01, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > But I must admit, now I don't understand what happens,
> >
> > 	The modification of that variable is protected by the BKL, but
> > 	the _ordering_ of the initial task (which becomes the idle
> > 	thread of CPU0) and the init task (which is spawned by the
> > 	initial task) is not synchronized.
> >
> > 	So we can occasionally end up init running sooner than
> > 	rest_init()
> >
> > How? rest_init() can't be preempted and it holds BKL. And
> > kernel_init() takes BKL before anything else. Confused...
>
> it cannot be preempted but it can schedule anywhere - and the BKL
> will be dropped silently.
>
> This is one of the biggest dangers of the BKL

Yes I see. But rest_init() runs under preempt_disable(). If it was
rescheduled, schedule_debug() should complain. No?

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-01 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-29 16:27 [PATCH] x86: detect stack protector for i386 builds on x86_64 Michal Schmidt
2009-08-30 13:39 ` Américo Wang
2009-08-30 18:43 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86: Detect " tip-bot for Michal Schmidt
2009-09-01 10:03   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-01 11:39     ` [PATCH] kthreads: Fix startup synchronization boot crash Ingo Molnar
2009-09-01 13:04       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-01 13:14         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-01 13:37           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-01 13:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-01 14:55               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-01 15:54                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-01 16:00                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-09-02 13:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-01 16:52                 ` [PATCH 0/1] kthreads: simplify !kthreadd_task logic, kill kthreadd_task_init_done Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-01 16:53                   ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-01 23:22                   ` [PATCH 0/1] " Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-02  9:13                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-04  7:37                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 16:32                         ` Wu Fei
2009-09-18 18:54                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-18 19:17                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 21:12                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-18 21:15                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-18 22:06                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 23:11                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 23:22                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-09-18 23:38                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-01 15:08             ` [PATCH] kthreads: Fix startup synchronization boot crash Américo Wang
2009-09-01 15:19               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-31  6:21 ` [PATCH] x86: detect stack protector for i386 builds on x86_64 Tejun Heo

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