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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
Subject: Re: BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:48:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090908074825.GA11413@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090907182629.GA3484@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> That's interesting. I tried to reproduce it on x86, but the 
> profile does not show any scheduler overhead at all on the server:

I've now simulated a saturated iperf server by adding an 
udelay(3000) to e1000_intr() in via the patch below.

There's no idle time left that way:

 Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  2.6%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa, 93.2%hi,  4.2%si,  0.0%st
 Mem:   1021044k total,    93400k used,   927644k free,     5068k buffers
 Swap:  8193140k total,        0k used,  8193140k free,    25404k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND                    
 1604 mingo     20   0 38300  956  724 S 99.4  0.1   3:15.07 iperf                      
  727 root      15  -5     0    0    0 S  0.2  0.0   0:00.41 kondemand/0                
 1226 root      20   0  6452  336  240 S  0.2  0.0   0:00.06 irqbalance                 
 1387 mingo     20   0 78872 1988 1300 S  0.2  0.2   0:00.23 sshd                       
 1657 mingo     20   0 12752 1128  800 R  0.2  0.1   0:01.34 top                        
    1 root      20   0 10320  684  572 S  0.0  0.1   0:01.79 init                       
    2 root      15  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthreadd                   

And the server is only able to saturate half of the 1 gigabit 
bandwidth:

 Client connecting to t, TCP port 5001
 TCP window size: 16.0 KByte (default)
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 [  3] local 10.0.1.19 port 50836 connected with 10.0.1.14 port 5001
 [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
 [  3]  0.0-10.0 sec    504 MBytes    423 Mbits/sec
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 Client connecting to t, TCP port 5001
 TCP window size: 16.0 KByte (default)
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 [  3] local 10.0.1.19 port 50837 connected with 10.0.1.14 port 5001
 [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
 [  3]  0.0-10.0 sec    502 MBytes    420 Mbits/sec


perf top is showing:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   PerfTop:   28517 irqs/sec  kernel:99.4% [100000 cycles],  (all, 1 CPUs)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

             samples    pcnt   kernel function
             _______   _____   _______________

           139553.00 - 93.2% : delay_tsc
             2098.00 -  1.4% : hmac_digest
              561.00 -  0.4% : ip_call_ra_chain
              335.00 -  0.2% : neigh_alloc
              279.00 -  0.2% : __hash_conntrack
              257.00 -  0.2% : dev_activate
              186.00 -  0.1% : proc_tcp_available_congestion_control
              178.00 -  0.1% : e1000_get_regs
              167.00 -  0.1% : tcp_event_data_recv

delay_tsc() dominates, as expected. Still zero scheduler overhead 
and the contex-switch rate is well below 1000 per sec.

Then i booted v2.6.30 vanilla, added the udelay(3000) and got:

 [  5] local 10.0.1.14 port 5001 connected with 10.0.1.19 port 47026
 [  5]  0.0-10.0 sec    493 MBytes    412 Mbits/sec
 [  4] local 10.0.1.14 port 5001 connected with 10.0.1.19 port 47027
 [  4]  0.0-10.0 sec    520 MBytes    436 Mbits/sec
 [  5] local 10.0.1.14 port 5001 connected with 10.0.1.19 port 47028
 [  5]  0.0-10.0 sec    506 MBytes    424 Mbits/sec
 [  4] local 10.0.1.14 port 5001 connected with 10.0.1.19 port 47029
 [  4]  0.0-10.0 sec    496 MBytes    415 Mbits/sec

i.e. essentially the same throughput. (and this shows that using .30 
versus .31 did not materially impact iperf performance in this test, 
under these conditions and with this hardware)

The i applied the BFS patch to v2.6.30 and used the same 
udelay(3000) hack and got:

No measurable change in throughput.

Obviously, this test is not equivalent to your test - but it does 
show that even saturated iperf is getting scheduled just fine. (or, 
rather, does not get scheduled all that much.)

[  5] local 10.0.1.14 port 5001 connected with 10.0.1.19 port 38505
[  5]  0.0-10.1 sec    481 MBytes    401 Mbits/sec
[  4] local 10.0.1.14 port 5001 connected with 10.0.1.19 port 38506
[  4]  0.0-10.0 sec    505 MBytes    423 Mbits/sec
[  5] local 10.0.1.14 port 5001 connected with 10.0.1.19 port 38507
[  5]  0.0-10.0 sec    508 MBytes    426 Mbits/sec
[  4] local 10.0.1.14 port 5001 connected with 10.0.1.19 port 38508
[  4]  0.0-10.0 sec    486 MBytes    406 Mbits/sec

So either your MIPS system has some unexpected dependency on the 
scheduler, or there's something weird going on.

Mind poking on this one to figure out whether it's all repeatable 
and why that slowdown happens? Multiple attempts to reproduce it 
failed here for me.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-08  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 224+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-06 20:59 BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07  2:05 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 12:16   ` [quad core results] " Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 12:36     ` Stefan Richter
2009-09-07 13:41     ` Markus Tornqvist
2009-09-07 13:59       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09  5:54         ` Markus Tornqvist
2009-09-07 14:45       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 15:20         ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 15:36           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 15:47             ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 15:24         ` Xavier Bestel
2009-09-07 15:37           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 16:00           ` Diego Calleja
2009-09-07 15:34     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07  3:38 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 11:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-08 18:15     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 20:25       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-07 14:40   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08  7:19     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08  8:31       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 20:22         ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 21:10           ` Michal Schmidt
2009-09-08 21:11           ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 21:40             ` GeunSik Lim
2009-09-08 22:36               ` Frans Pop
2009-09-09  9:53           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 11:14             ` David Newall
2009-09-09 11:32               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 11:55             ` Frans Pop
2009-09-11  1:36               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-16 18:27                 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-17  1:29                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-01  9:36                     ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08  8:38       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 10:13         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 11:32           ` Juergen Beisert
2009-09-08 22:00             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 23:20               ` Jiri Kosina
2009-09-08 23:38                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 12:03           ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-08 21:28             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 14:20           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 22:53             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 23:54   ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-08 11:30     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07  3:50 ` Con Kolivas
2009-09-07 18:20   ` Jerome Glisse
2009-09-07  9:49 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 10:12   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 10:41     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 11:57   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 14:14     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 17:38       ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 20:44         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08  9:13           ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 15:23             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 20:34               ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09  6:13                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09  8:34                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09  8:52                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09  9:02                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09  9:18                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09  9:05                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09  9:17                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09  9:40                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 10:17                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 19:45                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-10 20:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 20:39                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-10 20:42                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 21:19                                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-11  9:26                                   ` Mat
2009-09-12 11:26                                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-09  9:10                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 11:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:20                         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 18:04                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 20:12                             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 20:50                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  1:02                                 ` Con Kolivas
2009-09-10 11:03                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  3:15                               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10  6:08                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  6:40                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  9:54                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:03                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:11                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:28                                         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:57                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:09                                             ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:21                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:24                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:28                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:35                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:42                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 16:02                                 ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 16:05                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10 16:12                                     ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 16:26                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 16:33                                         ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 17:03                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 17:53                                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 18:46                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 18:51                                   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Disable NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS for now tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 18:57                                   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Fix sched::sched_stat_wait tracepoint field tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  9:48                             ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  9:59                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:01                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  6:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10  6:58                             ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  7:04                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  9:44                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  9:45                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 13:53                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-10  7:33                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  7:49                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  7:53                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:02                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:09                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 18:00                                       ` [crash, bisected] Re: clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11  7:37                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11  7:48                                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-11 13:33                                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-11 18:22                                             ` [tip:timers/core] clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable, fix crash tip-bot for Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-14 15:19                                             ` [crash, bisected] Re: clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable Ingo Molnar
2009-09-14 15:37                                               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-14 17:59                                               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-10  6:59                             ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 12:48                         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 15:37                     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Turn off child_runs_first tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 17:57                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-09 18:08                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 18:59                           ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-09 19:48                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-09 15:37                     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Re-tune the scheduler latency defaults to decrease worst-case latencies tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-12 11:45                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-09 15:37                     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Keep kthreads at default priority tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 16:55                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-09-09 17:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 17:34                           ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-12 11:48                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-12 12:19                               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 11:52               ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 18:02   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-07 18:46     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 20:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 20:46         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 21:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-07 21:05             ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 22:18               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09  7:38   ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-10 12:19     ` latt location (Was Re: BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements) Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 15:16 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Michael Buesch
2009-09-07 18:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 18:47     ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-07 18:51     ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-07 20:57       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 23:24         ` Pekka Pietikainen
2009-09-08  8:04           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08  8:13             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 10:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 10:40                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 11:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 19:06                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 12:00                 ` el_es
2009-09-08 15:45         ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-08  7:48     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-09-08  9:50       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-08 13:09         ` Ralf Baechle
2009-09-09  1:36           ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-08 13:09         ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-09  0:28           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09  0:37             ` David Miller
2009-09-08 14:45       ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-18 11:24         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 14:46           ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 18:01             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 18:43               ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 19:39                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 20:15                   ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 20:22                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 20:33                       ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-20 18:10                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 12:57 ` Epic regression in throughput since v2.6.23 Serge Belyshev
2009-09-08 17:47   ` Jesse Brandeburg
2009-09-08 18:20     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 19:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-09-08 19:20       ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-08 19:26         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-09-08 18:37   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 22:15   ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-09 15:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 20:49       ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-09 21:23         ` Cory Fields
2009-09-10  6:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 23:23           ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-11  6:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11  8:55               ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-13 15:27               ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-13 15:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-13 19:17                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-14  6:15                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-16 19:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-16 23:18                   ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-17  4:55                     ` [patchlet] " Mike Galbraith
2009-09-17  5:06                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-17  7:21                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  7:43 ` [updated] BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-14  9:46 ` Phoronix CFS vs BFS bencharks Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-14 11:35   ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]     ` <f42384a10909140727k463ff460q3859892dcb79bcc5@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-14 15:32       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-14 19:14         ` Marcin Letyns
2009-09-14 20:49           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-09-15  8:37             ` Mike Galbraith
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-09-10 21:17 BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-11 10:10 Mat
2009-09-11 18:33 Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-09-12  7:37 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-12  7:51   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-12  8:27   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-09-12  9:03     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-12  9:34       ` Volker Armin Hemmann

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