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From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:53:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AA6E07C.9030801@arcor.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090908072046.3932fd50@infradead.org>

On 09/08/2009 05:20 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:13:34 +0300
> Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@arcor.de>  wrote:
>
>> On 09/08/2009 11:38 AM, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:19:06 +0300
>>> Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@arcor.de>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> latencytop has this to say:
>>>>
>>>>      http://foss.math.aegean.gr/~realnc/pics/latop1.png
>>>>
>>>> Though I don't really understand what this tool is trying to tell
>>>> me, I hope someone does.
>>>
>>> despite the untranslated content, it is clear that you have
>>> scheduler delays (either due to scheduler bugs or cpu contention)
>>> of upto 68 msecs... Second in line is your binary AMD graphics
>>> driver that is chewing up 14% of your total latency...
>>
>> I've now used a correctly installed and up-to-date version of
>> latencytop and repeated the test.  Also, I got rid of AMD's binary
>> blob and used kernel DRM drivers for my graphics card to throw fglrx
>> out of the equation (which btw didn't help; the exact same problems
>> occur).
>>
>> Here the result:
>>
>>       http://foss.math.aegean.gr/~realnc/pics/latop2.png
>>
>> Again: this is on an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU.
>
>
> so we finally have objective numbers!
>
> now the interesting part is also WHERE the latency hits. Because
> fundamentally, if you oversubscribe the CPU, you WILL get scheduling
> latency.. simply you have more to run than there is CPU.

Sounds plausible.  However, with mainline this latency is very, very 
noticeable.  With BFS I need to look really hard to detect it or do 
outright silly things, like a "make -j50".  (At first I wrote "-j20" 
here but then went ahead an tested it just for kicks, and BFS would 
still let me use the GUI smoothly, LOL.  So then I corrected it to 
"-j50"...)

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-08 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 224+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-06 20:59 BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07  2:05 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 12:16   ` [quad core results] " Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 12:36     ` Stefan Richter
2009-09-07 13:41     ` Markus Tornqvist
2009-09-07 13:59       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09  5:54         ` Markus Tornqvist
2009-09-07 14:45       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 15:20         ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 15:36           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 15:47             ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 15:24         ` Xavier Bestel
2009-09-07 15:37           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 16:00           ` Diego Calleja
2009-09-07 15:34     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07  3:38 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 11:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-08 18:15     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 20:25       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-07 14:40   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08  7:19     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08  8:31       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 20:22         ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 21:10           ` Michal Schmidt
2009-09-08 21:11           ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 21:40             ` GeunSik Lim
2009-09-08 22:36               ` Frans Pop
2009-09-09  9:53           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 11:14             ` David Newall
2009-09-09 11:32               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 11:55             ` Frans Pop
2009-09-11  1:36               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-16 18:27                 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-17  1:29                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-01  9:36                     ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08  8:38       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 10:13         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 11:32           ` Juergen Beisert
2009-09-08 22:00             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 23:20               ` Jiri Kosina
2009-09-08 23:38                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 12:03           ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-08 21:28             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 14:20           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 22:53             ` Nikos Chantziaras [this message]
2009-09-07 23:54   ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-08 11:30     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07  3:50 ` Con Kolivas
2009-09-07 18:20   ` Jerome Glisse
2009-09-07  9:49 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 10:12   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 10:41     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 11:57   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 14:14     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 17:38       ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 20:44         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08  9:13           ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 15:23             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 20:34               ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09  6:13                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09  8:34                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09  8:52                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09  9:02                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09  9:18                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09  9:05                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09  9:17                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09  9:40                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 10:17                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 19:45                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-10 20:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 20:39                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-10 20:42                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 21:19                                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-11  9:26                                   ` Mat
2009-09-12 11:26                                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-09  9:10                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 11:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:20                         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 18:04                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 20:12                             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 20:50                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  1:02                                 ` Con Kolivas
2009-09-10 11:03                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  3:15                               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10  6:08                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  6:40                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  9:54                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:03                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:11                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:28                                         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:57                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:09                                             ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:21                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:24                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:28                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:35                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:42                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 16:02                                 ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 16:05                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10 16:12                                     ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 16:26                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 16:33                                         ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 17:03                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 17:53                                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 18:46                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 18:51                                   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Disable NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS for now tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 18:57                                   ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Fix sched::sched_stat_wait tracepoint field tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  9:48                             ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  9:59                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:01                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  6:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10  6:58                             ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  7:04                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  9:44                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  9:45                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 13:53                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-10  7:33                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10  7:49                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  7:53                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:02                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:09                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 18:00                                       ` [crash, bisected] Re: clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11  7:37                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11  7:48                                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-11 13:33                                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-11 18:22                                             ` [tip:timers/core] clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable, fix crash tip-bot for Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-14 15:19                                             ` [crash, bisected] Re: clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable Ingo Molnar
2009-09-14 15:37                                               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-14 17:59                                               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-10  6:59                             ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 12:48                         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 15:37                     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Turn off child_runs_first tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 17:57                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-09 18:08                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 18:59                           ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-09 19:48                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-09 15:37                     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Re-tune the scheduler latency defaults to decrease worst-case latencies tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-12 11:45                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-09 15:37                     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Keep kthreads at default priority tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 16:55                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-09-09 17:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 17:34                           ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-12 11:48                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-12 12:19                               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 11:52               ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 18:02   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-07 18:46     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 20:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 20:46         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 21:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-07 21:05             ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 22:18               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09  7:38   ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-10 12:19     ` latt location (Was Re: BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements) Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 15:16 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Michael Buesch
2009-09-07 18:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 18:47     ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-07 18:51     ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-07 20:57       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 23:24         ` Pekka Pietikainen
2009-09-08  8:04           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08  8:13             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 10:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 10:40                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 11:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 19:06                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 12:00                 ` el_es
2009-09-08 15:45         ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-08  7:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08  9:50       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-08 13:09         ` Ralf Baechle
2009-09-09  1:36           ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-08 13:09         ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-09  0:28           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09  0:37             ` David Miller
2009-09-08 14:45       ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-18 11:24         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 14:46           ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 18:01             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 18:43               ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 19:39                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 20:15                   ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 20:22                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 20:33                       ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-20 18:10                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 12:57 ` Epic regression in throughput since v2.6.23 Serge Belyshev
2009-09-08 17:47   ` Jesse Brandeburg
2009-09-08 18:20     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 19:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-09-08 19:20       ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-08 19:26         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-09-08 18:37   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 22:15   ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-09 15:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 20:49       ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-09 21:23         ` Cory Fields
2009-09-10  6:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 23:23           ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-11  6:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11  8:55               ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-13 15:27               ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-13 15:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-13 19:17                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-14  6:15                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-16 19:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-16 23:18                   ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-17  4:55                     ` [patchlet] " Mike Galbraith
2009-09-17  5:06                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-17  7:21                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10  7:43 ` [updated] BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-14  9:46 ` Phoronix CFS vs BFS bencharks Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-14 11:35   ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]     ` <f42384a10909140727k463ff460q3859892dcb79bcc5@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-14 15:32       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-14 19:14         ` Marcin Letyns
2009-09-14 20:49           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-09-15  8:37             ` Mike Galbraith
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-09-10 21:17 BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-11 10:10 Mat
2009-09-11 18:33 Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-09-12  7:37 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-12  7:51   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-12  8:27   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-09-12  9:03     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-12  9:34       ` Volker Armin Hemmann

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