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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:49:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090925204925.GA4726@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090918055843.GB7104@kroah.com>

Hi!

> > > > > I've reproduced a bug with the following .config options:
> > > > >
> > > > > ??CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
> > > > > ??CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y
> > > > >
> > > > > /dev/null and /dev/zero are not read/writable to ordinary users, 
> > > > > breaking normal bootup and login:
> > > > 
> > > > Udev should run long before some ordinary/non-root user can login, 
> > > > and apply the permissions as it always does. It's known to work on 
> > > > Fedora, SUSE, Ubuntu. What kind of system/environment/setup is that 
> > > > where you see this?
> > > 
> > > I don't know if this is what Ingo does, but I have a few machines 
> > > where I don't run the distro-supplied 'initrd' at all, because it's 
> > > easier to boot without it. The Fedora initrd doesn't allow me to 
> > > sanely set root filesystem parameters without totally rewriting the 
> > > initrd image, which I'm not interested in, for example (they'll take 
> > > effect for the root initrd, not the final root).
> > 
> > Correct: i'm booting raw bzImages, with /dev copied to the real /dev. To 
> > this box udev is mostly an annoyance that slows down my bootup ;-)
> 
> I use non-initrd systems as well, and this option works for me on Gentoo
> and SUSE machines.
> 
> As you are using a very old udev, and the boot infrastructure for udev
> in older Fedora releases was a bit "odd" in places, I would recommend
> not using these options on that machine.  If we need to reword the
> Kconfig help option to make it a bit more clear, do you have a
> suggestion on what we should change?

"no regressions" ?
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-25 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-17  8:23 [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 12:03 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 13:13   ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 16:35     ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-17 17:47       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-17 18:59         ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-17 19:11           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 12:57           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 13:16   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 13:54   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 14:09     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:11       ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:25         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:32           ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:43             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:58               ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 15:13                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 15:32                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:33                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 14:42       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 12:57 ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 13:05   ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 13:29     ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 15:43       ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18  6:03         ` Greg KH
2009-09-18  9:25           ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18 15:05             ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 17:29   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 18:53     ` [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster) Ingo Molnar
2009-09-17 19:18       ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 20:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-17 20:31           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18  5:58             ` Greg KH
2009-09-25 20:49               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-09-27 22:52                 ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 22:26           ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 22:41             ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18  0:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18  1:50               ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18  6:02                 ` Greg KH
2009-09-18 11:50                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 15:05                     ` Greg KH
2009-09-18 15:37                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:35                         ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 19:50                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-20  1:43                             ` Dave Airlie
2009-09-20 15:08                               ` Greg KH
2009-09-21  2:58                                 ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]                                 ` <ac3eb2510909200912o76e0d4e4l2dcaf352fe6b4e19@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <ac3eb2510909200914g1ed6a47cydc0edec6fff96ef4@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-21  2:59                                     ` Dave Airlie
2009-10-20 20:32                                       ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-20 17:33                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 20:58                 ` [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 21:09                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 21:19                     ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 22:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 21:31                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 22:03                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18  5:54     ` [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster Greg KH
2009-09-18 12:24       ` Eric W. Biederman

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