[Lustre-devel] Needed: insight on obd_set_info_async()

[Lustre-devel] Needed: insight on obd_set_info_async()

[Nicolas Williams]

I'm trying to find out which uses of obd_set_info_async() involve values
that come from a PTLRPC message buffer, and which ones don't.  It would
help to know what obd_set_info_async() is for...  It seems it's a
glorified ioctl()...

I'm tempted to augment it to always take a struct ptlrpc_request *req
argument, so that req == NULL || val == NULL, and when req != NULL the
value will be obtained using req_capsule_*_get().  Between that and
enhancements to req_capsule_extend() and what not we might be able to
ensure that 'val' is always swabbed by capsule code.

But if the uses of obd_set_info_async() are very clearly distinguishable
it might be better to introduce a variant that takes a struct
ptlrpc_request *req _instead_ of val/vallen.

Comments?

Nico
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[Lustre-devel] Needed: insight on obd_set_info_async()

[Andreas Dilger]

On Oct 02, 2009  17:06 -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> I'm trying to find out which uses of obd_set_info_async() involve values
> that come from a PTLRPC message buffer, and which ones don't.  It would
> help to know what obd_set_info_async() is for...  It seems it's a
> glorified ioctl()...

Sort of, yes, though I would characterize it more like a "get/set system
xattr".  It can get/set key,value pairs on a local or remote node.  The
"async" part means that the caller is the one in charge of handling waiting
for completion of the operation.  This is important when doing an operation
that may involve many OSTs, since we want the RPCs to happen in parallel
instead of in series.

> I'm tempted to augment it to always take a struct ptlrpc_request *req
> argument, so that req == NULL || val == NULL, and when req != NULL the
> value will be obtained using req_capsule_*_get().  Between that and
> enhancements to req_capsule_extend() and what not we might be able to
> ensure that 'val' is always swabbed by capsule code.

I can't comment on the HEAD capsule code, maybe someone else can...

> But if the uses of obd_set_info_async() are very clearly distinguishable
> it might be better to introduce a variant that takes a struct
> ptlrpc_request *req _instead_ of val/vallen.

Cheers, Andreas
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Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.

[Lustre-devel] Needed: insight on obd_set_info_async()

[Nicolas Williams]

On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 01:34:27AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Oct 02, 2009  17:06 -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> > I'm trying to find out which uses of obd_set_info_async() involve values
> > that come from a PTLRPC message buffer, and which ones don't.  It would
> > help to know what obd_set_info_async() is for...  It seems it's a
> > glorified ioctl()...
> 
> Sort of, yes, though I would characterize it more like a "get/set system
> xattr".  It can get/set key,value pairs on a local or remote node.  The
> "async" part means that the caller is the one in charge of handling waiting
> for completion of the operation.  This is important when doing an operation
> that may involve many OSTs, since we want the RPCs to happen in parallel
> instead of in series.

But does it always go over the wire?  Is it always executed with a 'val'
that came off the wire?

> > I'm tempted to augment it to always take a struct ptlrpc_request *req
> > argument, so that req == NULL || val == NULL, and when req != NULL the
> > value will be obtained using req_capsule_*_get().  Between that and
> > enhancements to req_capsule_extend() and what not we might be able to
> > ensure that 'val' is always swabbed by capsule code.
> 
> I can't comment on the HEAD capsule code, maybe someone else can...

That's OK, I can take care of the capsule conversion for this function.
But I need to understand it and the contexts when it's called a bit
better.

Nico
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[Lustre-devel] Needed: insight on obd_set_info_async()

[Andreas Dilger]

On Oct 04, 2009  12:11 -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 01:34:27AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > On Oct 02, 2009  17:06 -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> > > I'm trying to find out which uses of obd_set_info_async() involve values
> > > that come from a PTLRPC message buffer, and which ones don't.  It would
> > > help to know what obd_set_info_async() is for...  It seems it's a
> > > glorified ioctl()...
> > 
> > Sort of, yes, though I would characterize it more like a "get/set system
> > xattr".  It can get/set key,value pairs on a local or remote node.  The
> > "async" part means that the caller is the one in charge of handling waiting
> > for completion of the operation.  This is important when doing an operation
> > that may involve many OSTs, since we want the RPCs to happen in parallel
> > instead of in series.
> 
> But does it always go over the wire?  Is it always executed with a 'val'
> that came off the wire?

No, getinfo/setinfo also operate locally in many places.  The caller isn't
supposed to know at what lower layer the request will be processed.

In that regard, the early design goal of the Lustre stack was that it
has a single API throughout the stack and is transparent whether the
operations are happening on a local or remote node, but I wasn't at all
involved in the 2.0 development and that goal has fallen by the wayside.

> > > I'm tempted to augment it to always take a struct ptlrpc_request *req
> > > argument, so that req == NULL || val == NULL, and when req != NULL the
> > > value will be obtained using req_capsule_*_get().  Between that and
> > > enhancements to req_capsule_extend() and what not we might be able to
> > > ensure that 'val' is always swabbed by capsule code.
> > 
> > I can't comment on the HEAD capsule code, maybe someone else can...
> 
> That's OK, I can take care of the capsule conversion for this function.
> But I need to understand it and the contexts when it's called a bit
> better.
> 
> Nico
> -- 

Cheers, Andreas
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Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.

[Lustre-devel] Needed: insight on obd_set_info_async()

[Nicolas Williams]

On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 11:15:32AM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Oct 04, 2009  12:11 -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> > But does it always go over the wire?  Is it always executed with a 'val'
> > that came off the wire?
> 
> No, getinfo/setinfo also operate locally in many places.  The caller isn't
> supposed to know at what lower layer the request will be processed.
> 
> In that regard, the early design goal of the Lustre stack was that it
> has a single API throughout the stack and is transparent whether the
> operations are happening on a local or remote node, but I wasn't at all
> involved in the 2.0 development and that goal has fallen by the wayside.

Thanks.  This helps.  Also, it seems, from what I can tell, that 'val'
is expected to be in local byte order, which also helps.

I've figured out what to do.  There's only a handful of PTLRPCs that
devolve into calls to obd_set_info_async() with 'val's taken from an RPC
buffer, and at each of those places there's a call to ptlrpc_req_need_swab()
and swabbing code.  Each such RPC handler will change the req's format
to one that properly models the 'val', so that it gets swabbed properly
(this was my original plan, but I wasn't sure if obd_set_info_async()
might be doing additional swabbing below, and now it's clear that it
does not).

I'll make sure to check every call to KEY_IS() as well.

Nico
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