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From: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU"
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:55:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200910081655.37485.elendil@planet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091008064041.67219b13@infradead.org>

On Thursday 08 October 2009, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:24:16 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] x86, timers: check for pending timers after (device)
> interrupts
>
> Now that range timers and deferred timers are common, I found a
> problem with these using the "perf timechart" tool.
>
> It turns out that on x86, these two 'opportunistic' timers only
> get checked when another "real" timer happens.
> These opportunistic timers have the objective to save power by
> hitchhiking on other wakeups, as to avoid CPU wakeups by themselves
> as much as possible.

This patch makes quite a difference for me. iwlagn and phy0 now 
consistently show at ~10 ms or lower.

I do still get occasional high latencies, but those are for things like
"[rpc_wait_bit_killable]" or "Writing a page to disk", where I guess you'd 
expect them. Those high latencies are mostly only listed for "Global" and 
don't translate to individual processes.

On Thursday 08 October 2009, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:24:22 +0200 Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Latencytop was accounting uninterruptible and interruptible sleep
> > time up to 5ms, which is not the latency the user is looking for.
>
> it is for everything but the scheduler latency!
>
> latencytop wants to show where you're waiting for disk, etc etc.
> that's not "time on runqueue".

The ~10 ms I still get for iwlagn and phy0 (and sometimes higher (~30 ms) 
for others like Xorg and artsd) is still "Scheduler: waiting for cpu'. If 
it is actually due to (un)interuptable sleep, isn't that a misleading 
label? I directly associated that with scheduler latency.

Or are those that are left now real scheduler latencies? The values are now 
low enough that they don't indicate a problem.

Thanks,
FJP

P.S. I may be seeing another issue in the latencytop GUI. Sometimes I see
"fsync() on a file (type 'F' for details)". But typing 'F' only gets me a 
search for a target starting with "F", no details.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-08 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-05 13:00 [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU" Frans Pop
2009-10-05 14:13 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-05 14:24   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-06 15:49     ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07 17:10       ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07 18:10         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-07 18:34         ` Frans Pop
2009-10-08  4:05           ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08  6:23             ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 14:13               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 14:54                 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 14:55               ` Frans Pop [this message]
2009-10-08 15:09                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 18:23                 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 20:34                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2009-10-09  3:35                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09  3:51                       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2009-10-08 20:59                   ` Frans Pop
2009-10-09  3:04                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09  6:35                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09  7:13                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09  7:55                       ` Sedat Dilek
2009-10-09  7:55                         ` Sedat Dilek
2009-10-09  8:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09  8:06                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09 14:23                       ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Update the clock of runqueue select_task_rq() selected tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-10-09 16:27                       ` [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU" Frans Pop
2009-10-09 20:06                         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 15:30               ` [tip:timers/urgent] x86, timers: Check for pending timers after (device) interrupts tip-bot for Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-09 14:23               ` [tip:sched/urgent] Revert "x86, timers: Check for pending timers after (device) interrupts" tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-10-08 11:24           ` [.32-rc3] scheduler: iwlagn consistently high in "waiting for CPU" Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:09             ` Frans Pop
2009-10-08 13:18               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-08 13:45             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-08 14:15               ` Mike Galbraith

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