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From: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, hohndel@infradead.org, lenb@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.32-rc3
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:20:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200910081720.45850.elendil@planet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910060815320.3432@localhost.localdomain>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Once you start believing the lie, suddenly all the subtrees will start
> thinking that now _their_ kernel versions are bad, so now they'll start
> to want to make the same idiotic changes to their Makefiles, or maybe
> they'll decide that they don't want to pull tagged releases, but the "one
> after the tag so that they'll get the updated Makefile".

After sleeping on it and letting it percolate a bit I understand this 
argument better, and accept it.

I'll continue to increase SUBLEVEL and add -rc0 for my own builds though, 
as IMHO it still makes perfect sense for versioning and managing installed 
kernel packages.

The conclusion for me is: if anyone wants -rc0, simply apply it locally.


I don't see myself ever using AUTOVERSION. The reason is that I don't want 
the files in /boot and dirs in /lib/modules/ to include the commit ID.

For me the kernel *version* is what's defined in the Makefile (plus any 
localversion extentions). That's how I want it installed. The AUTOVERSION 
part is a *revision*: an update to the tagged version.
(I don't expect you to agree with this.)

So, unless it is made possible to include AUTOVERSION in the kernel and 
display it in dmesg and as part of the full 'uname -a' info *without* it 
becoming part of 'uname -r', it is not a usable option for me. Sorry.

Cheers,
FJP

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-08 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-05  0:44 Linux 2.6.32-rc3 Linus Torvalds
2009-10-05 18:55 ` James Cloos
2009-10-06  1:57 ` Len Brown
2009-10-06  2:51   ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-06 14:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 14:38       ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-06 15:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 15:34           ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-06 15:43             ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]               ` <4ACBB7D7.10207@urpla.net>
2009-10-06 22:13                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 16:36           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07  1:09             ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-07  5:56               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 14:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 15:24         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 15:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 15:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 16:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 16:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 16:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 16:40                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 18:12                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-06 18:24                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 21:19                       ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 17:15                 ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 18:16                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 17:22                 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 17:32                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 18:29                     ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07  0:51                       ` Florian Mickler
2009-10-06 17:35                 ` [patch] kbuild: Improve version string logic Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 18:37                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-06 18:49                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 18:55                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-06 19:03                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-06 19:45                     ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 19:48                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-06 20:25                         ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07  2:43                   ` David Rientjes
2009-10-12 19:57                   ` [PATCH, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 22:04                     ` Frans Pop
2009-10-13  7:05                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13 17:51                         ` Frans Pop
2009-10-13 18:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-13 23:59                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-14  6:59                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14  7:24                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-14  7:33                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14  7:42                                     ` David Rientjes
2009-10-14 23:43                                       ` Frans Pop
2009-10-15  7:37                                         ` David Rientjes
2009-10-15 14:13                                           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-15 20:38                                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-15 21:01                                               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-15  9:03                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-15 14:42                                           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-15 20:45                                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-15  8:01                                       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-15  8:59                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 21:55                               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-13  2:00                     ` David Rientjes
2009-10-13  7:07                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13  7:59                         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-07 17:18                     ` [PATCH, v2] kbuild: Improve version string logic - two for the price of one - No thanks Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-07 19:45                       ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08  5:52                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  6:18                           ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08  6:34                             ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-08  6:39                               ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  7:16                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  7:21                                   ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-08  7:21                                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  7:32                                     ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-08  7:52                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  9:17                                         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08  6:37                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  8:31                         ` kbuild: Fix the breakage caused by "improve version string logic" Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  9:13                           ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 10:14                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08 10:19                               ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-09  6:55                               ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09  7:54                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-09  8:18                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-06 17:40                 ` Linux 2.6.32-rc3 Len Brown
2009-10-06 18:16                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 22:33                     ` Len Brown
2009-10-06 17:45                 ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-06 19:22                 ` Joel Becker
     [not found]               ` <4ACB77ED.6060104@grm.uci.cu>
2009-10-06 18:00                 ` Herlin R. Matos Lastres
2009-10-15 15:51             ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 15:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 17:09             ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 17:34               ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 17:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 18:56                   ` david
2009-10-06 18:23                 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 19:23                   ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 17:44             ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-06 18:14               ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-06 18:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 16:40           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 18:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 19:37               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07 21:39           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-08 15:20           ` Frans Pop [this message]
2009-10-06 15:29         ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 17:08           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 17:20             ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 21:33       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-06 22:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07  1:22           ` Dave Airlie
2009-10-07  2:31             ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-07  2:45               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-10 12:09               ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-10 12:18                 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-10-07  3:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07  3:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 13:52                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-07 14:52                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-07 17:44                     ` david
2009-10-07 18:13                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-07  4:02               ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-10-07 10:41 ` 2.6.32-rc3: floating-point build failure (undefined reference to `__udivdi3' in menu governor) Andreas Mohr
2009-10-07 14:23   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-07 17:34     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-10-07 17:45       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-07 17:45       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-10-09 16:01         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-10-09 16:32           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-09 17:08             ` Kyle McMartin
2009-10-09 17:12               ` Arjan van de Ven

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