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From: Greg KH <gregkh-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jing Huang <huangj-43mecJUBy8ZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Moving drivers into staging (was Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:24:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091012232429.GA24254@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091012154244.GA13323-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:42:44PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Hm, i think i even gave drivers/staging/ its name?

Yes you did, and I appreciate it :)

> > [...] It seems that I'm the only one that has the ability to drop 
> > drivers out of the kernel tree, which is a funny situation :)
> 
> You are the only one who has the ability to send a warning shot towards 
> drivers _without hurting users_, and by moving it into the focus of a 
> team of cleanup oriented developers.
> 
> I think that's an important distinction ;-)

Good point.

> > In thinking about this a lot more, I don't really mind it.  If people 
> > want to push stuff out of "real" places in the kernel, into 
> > drivers/staging/ and give the original authors and maintainers notice 
> > about what is going on, _and_ provide a TODO file for what needs to 
> > happen to get the code back into the main portion of the kernel tree, 
> > then I'll be happy to help out with this and manage it.
> > 
> > I think a 6-9 month window (basically 3 kernel releases) should be 
> > sufficient time to have a driver that has been in drivers/staging/ be 
> > cleaned up enough to move back into the main kernel tree.  If not, it 
> > could be easily dropped.
> > 
> > Any objections to this?
> 
> Sounds excellent to me!

Great, I'll await the patches to move stuff to drivers/staging/ now.

Wireless developers, warm up your editors :)

thanks,

greg k-h
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From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jing Huang <huangj@brocade.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Moving drivers into staging (was Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:24:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091012232429.GA24254@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091012154244.GA13323@elte.hu>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:42:44PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Hm, i think i even gave drivers/staging/ its name?

Yes you did, and I appreciate it :)

> > [...] It seems that I'm the only one that has the ability to drop 
> > drivers out of the kernel tree, which is a funny situation :)
> 
> You are the only one who has the ability to send a warning shot towards 
> drivers _without hurting users_, and by moving it into the focus of a 
> team of cleanup oriented developers.
> 
> I think that's an important distinction ;-)

Good point.

> > In thinking about this a lot more, I don't really mind it.  If people 
> > want to push stuff out of "real" places in the kernel, into 
> > drivers/staging/ and give the original authors and maintainers notice 
> > about what is going on, _and_ provide a TODO file for what needs to 
> > happen to get the code back into the main portion of the kernel tree, 
> > then I'll be happy to help out with this and manage it.
> > 
> > I think a 6-9 month window (basically 3 kernel releases) should be 
> > sufficient time to have a driver that has been in drivers/staging/ be 
> > cleaned up enough to move back into the main kernel tree.  If not, it 
> > could be easily dropped.
> > 
> > Any objections to this?
> 
> Sounds excellent to me!

Great, I'll await the patches to move stuff to drivers/staging/ now.

Wireless developers, warm up your editors :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-12 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-06 15:46 [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3 James Bottomley
2009-10-06 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 20:54   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-06 20:56     ` Randy Dunlap
2009-10-08 14:33     ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 14:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 14:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 19:48           ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 19:55             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 20:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 21:07                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-08 21:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-09  9:15                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-09 13:10                       ` Daniel Walker
2009-10-09 14:08                       ` James Bottomley
2009-10-09 19:25                         ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 13:06                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 14:19                           ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 14:54                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 15:09                               ` Moving drivers into staging (was Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3) Greg KH
2009-10-12 15:42                                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                   ` <20091012154244.GA13323-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 23:24                                     ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-10-12 23:24                                       ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 18:08                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-10-13 18:08                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-10-14  4:45                                         ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                           ` <20091014044519.GA19199-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14  5:19                                             ` Joe Perches
2009-10-14  5:19                                               ` Joe Perches
2009-10-14  6:33                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 14:13                                                 ` James Smart
2009-10-14 17:52                                                 ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-14 18:36                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 19:00                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-15  6:03                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 19:11                                                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                 ` <20091012150911.GB1656-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 15:43                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 15:43                                     ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 23:26                                     ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 15:25                               ` [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3 James Bottomley
2009-10-12 17:24                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-13 14:29                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 14:25                           ` Greg KH
2009-10-08 20:04               ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 20:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-10 14:37                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 14:56         ` James Bottomley

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