From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cl@linux-foundation.org, mpm@selenic.com,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: lockdep complaints in slab allocator
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:25:01 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091120162501.GA6772@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258730260.4104.240.camel@laptop>
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:17:40PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 06:48 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:05:58PM +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > > Peter Zijlstra kirjoitti:
> > >> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:38 +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> 2) propagate the nesting information and user spin_lock_nested(), given
> > >>>> that slab is already a rat's nest, this won't make it any less obvious.
> > >>> spin_lock_nested() doesn't really help us here because there's a
> > >>> _real_ possibility of a recursive spin lock here, right?
> > >> Well, I was working under the assumption that your analysis of it being
> > >> a false positive was right ;-)
> > >> I briefly tried to verify that, but got lost and gave up, at which point
> > >> I started looking for ways to annotate.
> > >
> > > Uh, ok, so apparently I was right after all. There's a comment in
> > > free_block() above the slab_destroy() call that refers to the comment above
> > > alloc_slabmgmt() function definition which explains it all.
> > >
> > > Long story short: ->slab_cachep never points to the same kmalloc cache
> > > we're allocating or freeing from. Where do we need to put the
> > > spin_lock_nested() annotation? Would it be enough to just use it in
> > > cache_free_alien() for alien->lock or do we need it in cache_flusharray()
> > > as well?
> >
> > Hmmm... If the nc->lock spinlocks are always from different slabs
> > (as alloc_slabmgmt()'s block comment claims), why not just give each
> > array_cache structure's lock its own struct lock_class_key? They
> > are zero size unless you have lockdep enabled.
>
> Because more classes:
>
> - takes more (static/limited) lockdep resources
>
> - make more chains, weakening lock dependency tracking
> because it can no longer use the state observed in one branch
> on state observed in another branch.
>
> Suppose you have 3 locks and 2 classes, lock 1 and 2 part of class A and
> lock 3 of class B
>
> Then if we observe 1 -> 3, and 3 -> 2, we'd see A->B and B->A, and go
> yell. Now if we split class A into two classes and these locks get into
> separate classes we loose that cycle.
>
> Now in this case we want to break a cycle, so the above will be correct,
> but all resulting chains will be equivalent for 99% (with the one
> exception of this funny recursion case) wasting lots of resources and
> state matching opportunity.
>
> Therefore it would be much better to use the _nested annotation if
> possible.
Got it, thank you for the explanation!!!
I will keep this in mind when reconsidering the RCU lockdep interactions.
Thanx, Paul
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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cl@linux-foundation.org, mpm@selenic.com,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: lockdep complaints in slab allocator
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:25:01 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091120162501.GA6772@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258730260.4104.240.camel@laptop>
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:17:40PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 06:48 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:05:58PM +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > > Peter Zijlstra kirjoitti:
> > >> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:38 +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> 2) propagate the nesting information and user spin_lock_nested(), given
> > >>>> that slab is already a rat's nest, this won't make it any less obvious.
> > >>> spin_lock_nested() doesn't really help us here because there's a
> > >>> _real_ possibility of a recursive spin lock here, right?
> > >> Well, I was working under the assumption that your analysis of it being
> > >> a false positive was right ;-)
> > >> I briefly tried to verify that, but got lost and gave up, at which point
> > >> I started looking for ways to annotate.
> > >
> > > Uh, ok, so apparently I was right after all. There's a comment in
> > > free_block() above the slab_destroy() call that refers to the comment above
> > > alloc_slabmgmt() function definition which explains it all.
> > >
> > > Long story short: ->slab_cachep never points to the same kmalloc cache
> > > we're allocating or freeing from. Where do we need to put the
> > > spin_lock_nested() annotation? Would it be enough to just use it in
> > > cache_free_alien() for alien->lock or do we need it in cache_flusharray()
> > > as well?
> >
> > Hmmm... If the nc->lock spinlocks are always from different slabs
> > (as alloc_slabmgmt()'s block comment claims), why not just give each
> > array_cache structure's lock its own struct lock_class_key? They
> > are zero size unless you have lockdep enabled.
>
> Because more classes:
>
> - takes more (static/limited) lockdep resources
>
> - make more chains, weakening lock dependency tracking
> because it can no longer use the state observed in one branch
> on state observed in another branch.
>
> Suppose you have 3 locks and 2 classes, lock 1 and 2 part of class A and
> lock 3 of class B
>
> Then if we observe 1 -> 3, and 3 -> 2, we'd see A->B and B->A, and go
> yell. Now if we split class A into two classes and these locks get into
> separate classes we loose that cycle.
>
> Now in this case we want to break a cycle, so the above will be correct,
> but all resulting chains will be equivalent for 99% (with the one
> exception of this funny recursion case) wasting lots of resources and
> state matching opportunity.
>
> Therefore it would be much better to use the _nested annotation if
> possible.
Got it, thank you for the explanation!!!
I will keep this in mind when reconsidering the RCU lockdep interactions.
Thanx, Paul
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Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-18 18:12 lockdep complaints in slab allocator Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-20 6:49 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-20 6:49 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-20 9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-20 9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-20 10:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-20 10:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-20 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-20 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-20 11:05 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-20 11:05 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-20 14:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-20 14:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-20 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-20 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-20 16:25 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-11-20 16:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-20 15:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-20 15:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-23 19:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-23 19:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-23 19:10 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-23 19:10 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-23 19:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-23 19:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 17:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 17:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 17:12 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-24 17:12 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-24 17:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 17:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 18:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 18:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 18:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 18:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-24 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-24 18:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 18:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 19:23 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-24 19:23 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-24 19:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 19:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 20:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 20:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 20:53 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-24 20:53 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-24 21:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 21:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 21:03 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-24 21:03 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-24 21:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 21:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 21:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 21:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 21:22 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-24 21:22 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-24 21:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 21:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 21:46 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-24 21:46 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-24 22:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 22:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-25 7:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-25 7:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-25 7:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-25 7:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-27 17:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-27 17:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-24 21:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 21:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 21:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 21:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 21:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 21:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 22:55 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-24 22:55 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-25 21:59 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-25 21:59 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-25 23:06 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-25 23:06 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-27 17:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-27 17:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-30 23:14 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-30 23:14 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 0:21 ` Matt Mackall
2009-12-01 0:21 ` Matt Mackall
2009-12-01 22:41 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 22:41 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 16:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-01 16:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-27 17:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-27 17:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-23 19:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-23 19:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-23 19:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-23 19:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-23 19:50 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-23 19:50 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-23 20:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-23 20:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-23 20:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-23 20:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-23 21:01 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-23 21:01 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-24 16:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 16:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 20:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 20:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 21:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-24 21:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-25 10:42 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-25 10:42 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24 21:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-24 21:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-30 16:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-30 16:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
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