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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] ksm: let shared pages be swappable
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:53:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091204185303.GL28697@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091204171640.GE19624@x200.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:16:40AM -0800, Chris Wright wrote:
> That's why I mentioned the page of zeroes as the prime example of
> something with a high mapcount that shouldn't really ever be evicted.

Just a nitpick, "never" is too much, it should remain evictable if
somebody halts all VM from monitor and starts a workloads that fills
RAM and runs for a very prolonged time pushing all VM into swap. This
is especially true if we stick to the below approach and it isn't
just 1 page in high-sharing.

> It's a somewhat special case, but wouldn't it be useful to have a generic
> method to recognize this kind of sharing since it's a generic issue?

Agreed.

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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] ksm: let shared pages be swappable
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:53:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091204185303.GL28697@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091204171640.GE19624@x200.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 09:16:40AM -0800, Chris Wright wrote:
> That's why I mentioned the page of zeroes as the prime example of
> something with a high mapcount that shouldn't really ever be evicted.

Just a nitpick, "never" is too much, it should remain evictable if
somebody halts all VM from monitor and starts a workloads that fills
RAM and runs for a very prolonged time pushing all VM into swap. This
is especially true if we stick to the below approach and it isn't
just 1 page in high-sharing.

> It's a somewhat special case, but wouldn't it be useful to have a generic
> method to recognize this kind of sharing since it's a generic issue?

Agreed.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-04 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-24 16:37 [PATCH 0/9] ksm: swapping Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:40 ` [PATCH 1/9] ksm: fix mlockfreed to munlocked Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:40   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 23:53   ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-24 23:53     ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-26 16:20   ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-26 16:20     ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-27 12:45     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-27 12:45       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30  6:01       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30  6:01         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 12:26         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 12:26           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 21:27           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-11-30 21:27             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-12-01 11:14       ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-01 11:14         ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-24 16:42 ` [PATCH 2/9] ksm: let shared pages be swappable Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:42   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30  0:46   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30  0:46     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30  9:15     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30  9:15       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 12:38       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 12:38         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-12-01  4:14         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01  4:14           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 11:55     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 11:55       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 12:07     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-30 12:07       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  0:39       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-01  0:39         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-01  6:32         ` Chris Wright
2009-12-01  6:32           ` Chris Wright
2009-12-01  9:11         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  9:11           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  9:28           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01  9:28             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01  9:37             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  9:37               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  9:46               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01  9:46                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01  9:59                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  9:59                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-02  5:08                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-02  5:08                     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-02 12:55                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-02 12:55                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-03  5:15                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-03  5:15                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-04  5:06                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-04  5:06                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-04  5:16                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-04  5:16                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-04 14:49                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-04 14:49                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-04 17:16                             ` Chris Wright
2009-12-04 17:16                               ` Chris Wright
2009-12-04 18:53                               ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2009-12-04 18:53                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-04 19:03                                 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-04 19:03                                   ` Chris Wright
2009-12-09  0:43                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-09  0:43                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-09  1:04                                 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-09  1:04                                   ` Chris Wright
2009-12-09 16:12                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-09 16:12                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-09 23:54                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-09 23:54                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-04 14:45                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-04 14:45                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-04 16:21                             ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-04 16:21                               ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-24 16:43 ` [PATCH 3/9] ksm: hold anon_vma in rmap_item Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:43   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] ksm: take keyhole reference to page Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:45   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:48 ` [PATCH 5/9] ksm: share anon page without allocating Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:48   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30  0:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30  0:04     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30 11:18     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 11:18       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-12-01  0:02       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-01  0:02         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-24 16:51 ` [PATCH 6/9] ksm: mem cgroup charge swapin copy Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:51   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-25 14:23   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-25 14:23     ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-25 17:12     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-25 17:12       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-25 17:36       ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-25 17:36         ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-30  0:13   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30  0:13     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30 11:40     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 11:40       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:54 ` [PATCH 7/9] ksm: rmap_walk to remove_migation_ptes Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:54   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:56 ` [PATCH 8/9] ksm: memory hotremove migration only Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:56   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:57 ` [PATCH 9/9] ksm: remove unswappable max_kernel_pages Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:57   ` Hugh Dickins

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