Easy grub2 installation for non Linux (Windows) systems?

Easy grub2 installation for non Linux (Windows) systems?

[Nando]

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Hi Grub2 Development team,

I've worked with a colleague to successfully implement ICHxM SMBUS PLL
overclocking using grub2 as described here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5569693

This is great as it means an overclocked CPU state from the bootloader,
providing a somewhat universal solution regardless of operating system being
used. The module developed 'setfsb.mod' I presume must exist on a Linux
partition.

For non Linux users, it is possible to load the grub2 package and modules on
an ntfs filesystem? If so, is there some easy to follow instructions on how
to go about doing that?

Nando

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Re: Easy grub2 installation for non Linux (Windows) systems?

[Christian Franke]

Nando wrote:
> For non Linux users, it is possible to load the grub2 package and
> modules on an ntfs filesystem? ...
> 

Yes, GRUB 1.97 builds and runs out-of-the-box on Cygwin.
(Note: requires previous binutils-20080624-2 due to a regression in ld
from binutils-2.19.51-1)

1.96 is available as a Cygwin package, 1.97 will be provided when
binutils regression is fixed.

-- 
Regards,
Christian Franke

Re: Easy grub2 installation for non Linux (Windows) systems?

[Nando]

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Hi Christian,

Thank you. I'll keep an eye open for the 1.97 Cygwin package.

Regards,
Nando

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Christian Franke <
Christian.Franke@t-online.de> wrote:

> Nando wrote:
> > For non Linux users, it is possible to load the grub2 package and
> > modules on an ntfs filesystem? ...
> >
>
> Yes, GRUB 1.97 builds and runs out-of-the-box on Cygwin.
> (Note: requires previous binutils-20080624-2 due to a regression in ld
> from binutils-2.19.51-1)
>
> 1.96 is available as a Cygwin package, 1.97 will be provided when
> binutils regression is fixed.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Christian Franke
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Easy grub2 installation for non Linux (Windows) systems?

[Robert Millan]

On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 10:08:10PM +1100, Nando wrote:
> Hi Grub2 Development team,
> 
> I've worked with a colleague to successfully implement ICHxM SMBUS PLL
> overclocking using grub2 as described here:
> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5569693
> 
> This is great as it means an overclocked CPU state from the bootloader,
> providing a somewhat universal solution regardless of operating system being
> used. The module developed 'setfsb.mod' I presume must exist on a Linux
> partition.
> 
> For non Linux users, it is possible to load the grub2 package and modules on
> an ntfs filesystem? If so, is there some easy to follow instructions on how
> to go about doing that?

Hi,

Note that if you combine GRUB with GPLv2-only code, the resulting binaries
aren't legally distributable.  If the copyright holders of this GPLv2 code
did this on purpose to prevent GPLv3 programs from using it, there isn't much
that can be done.

However, chances are they just didn't consider this situation, and it's
probably no problem to them to have these files relicensed to GPLv2-or-later.

-- 
Robert Millan

  The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."

RE: Easy grub2 installation for non Linux (Windows) systems?

[Gregg C Levine]

Hello!
No disrespect towards Nando, or you of course Robert, but is it possible
that the author of this project may have made himself deliberately unaware
of the GPLv3 license, and wasn't aware that it became the licensing scheme
(or model) behind everything we do now?

For example Nando does it say when he got it started? Next question is of
course, Robert when did the GPLv3 license become fact? Ideally this would be
the reasoning, both mine and the author's.

--
Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net
"The Force will be with you always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
  


> -----Original Message-----
> From: grub-devel-bounces+hansolofalcon=worldnet.att.net@gnu.org
[mailto:grub-devel-
> bounces+hansolofalcon=worldnet.att.net@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Robert Millan
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:58 PM
> To: The development of GNU GRUB
> Subject: Re: Easy grub2 installation for non Linux (Windows) systems?
> 
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 10:08:10PM +1100, Nando wrote:
> > Hi Grub2 Development team,
> >
> > I've worked with a colleague to successfully implement ICHxM SMBUS PLL
> > overclocking using grub2 as described here:
> > http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5569693
> >
> > This is great as it means an overclocked CPU state from the bootloader,
> > providing a somewhat universal solution regardless of operating system
being
> > used. The module developed 'setfsb.mod' I presume must exist on a Linux
> > partition.
> >
> > For non Linux users, it is possible to load the grub2 package and
modules on
> > an ntfs filesystem? If so, is there some easy to follow instructions on
how
> > to go about doing that?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Note that if you combine GRUB with GPLv2-only code, the resulting binaries
> aren't legally distributable.  If the copyright holders of this GPLv2 code
> did this on purpose to prevent GPLv3 programs from using it, there isn't
much
> that can be done.
> 
> However, chances are they just didn't consider this situation, and it's
> probably no problem to them to have these files relicensed to
GPLv2-or-later.
> 
> --
> Robert Millan

Re: Easy grub2 installation for non Linux (Windows) systems?

[Robert Millan]

On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 05:40:56PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello!
> No disrespect towards Nando, or you of course Robert, but is it possible
> that the author of this project may have made himself deliberately unaware
> of the GPLv3 license, and wasn't aware that it became the licensing scheme
> (or model) behind everything we do now?

Yes, of course.

> For example Nando does it say when he got it started? Next question is of
> course, Robert when did the GPLv3 license become fact?

Version 3 was published June 29, 2007.  GRUB switched shortly after, in
July 21.

-- 
Robert Millan

  The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."