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From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] ftrace - add function_duration tracer
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:04:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091210180412.GB30999@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091210175737.GB5256@elte.hu>

Hi -


> > FWIW, those who want to collect such measurements today can do so with 
> > a few lines of systemtap script for each of the above.
> 
> Well, i dont think stap can do workload instrumentation. It can do 
> system-wide (and user local / task local) - but can it do per task 
> hierarchies?

It can track the evolution of task hierarchies by listening to process
forking events, and filter other kernel/user events according to
then-current hierarchy data.  One primitive implementation of this is
in the target_set.stp tapset, but it's easy to script up other
policies.


> Also, i dont think stap supports proper separation of per workload 
> measurements either. I.e. can you write a script that will work properly 
> even if multiple monitoring tools are running, each trying to measure 
> latencies?

Sure, always has.  You can run many scripts concurrently, each with its
own internal state.  (Overheads accumulate, sadly & naturally.)


> Also, i personally find built-in kernel functionality more trustable
> than dynamically built stap kernel modules that get inserted.

I understand.  In the absence of a suitable bytecode engine in the
kernel, this was the only practical way to do everything we needed.


- FChE

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-10 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-09 22:40 [PATCH 2/4] ftrace - add function_duration tracer Tim Bird
2009-12-10  7:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 12:03   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 14:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 14:53       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 15:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 16:22           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 16:52             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 17:16               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 17:28           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 17:57             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 18:04               ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2009-12-10 18:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 18:50                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 20:14                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 21:30                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 14:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 16:16       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 20:23       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 21:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 22:40           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 21:13   ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 22:04     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 22:26       ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 22:36       ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 23:47         ` Steven Rostedt

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