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From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] ftrace - add function_duration tracer
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:30:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091210213039.GA32064@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091210201454.GA31461@elte.hu>

Hi -

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:14:54PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> [...]
> > A few thousand entries in a hash table is really not that big a deal.
> Except if it's a high-freq event and the huge hash table is kept in the 
> CPU cache all the time.

OK.  (For reference, an int->int hash table slot costs about 40 bytes,
so an L2 cache could carry quite a few of them.)


> Firstly, AFAICS each subsequent systemtap probe for the same event
> adds chaining overhead - and then you have to disambiguate back to
> the originating script.

Right, but at some point this kind of demultiplexing has to occur
somewhere along the line.  In practice, chaining a la kprobes or
tracepoints is negligible compared to the other costs.


> Secondly, is there a way for a single probe to multiplex its output
> to multiple apps? AFAICS that's only possible by running multiple
> scripts.

As in having multiple files to write to?  There's no easy & direct way
to do that right now (beyond unmerged per-cpu files in "bulk" mode).
One can have systemtap print data on multiple synthetic /proc/.../
files, but that has other tradeoffs.  Or one could demultiplex in user
space (for example by prefixing text lines, or using binary records).

 
> > The message we have received time, after time, after time was 
> > stronger: that a suitable interpreter was not going to be welcome in 
> > tree.  If this is relaxed (and perhaps even if not), we may prototype 
> > such a thing in the new year.
> 
> FYI, i suggested this to you 2-3 years ago.

OK, well, I hope that when the time comes, the messages will be less
mixed than usual. :)


- FChE

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-10 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-09 22:40 [PATCH 2/4] ftrace - add function_duration tracer Tim Bird
2009-12-10  7:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 12:03   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 14:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 14:53       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 15:38         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 16:22           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 16:52             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 17:16               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 17:28           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 17:57             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 18:04               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 18:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 18:50                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-12-10 20:14                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 21:30                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2009-12-10 14:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 16:16       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-10 20:23       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 21:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 22:40           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-12-10 21:13   ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 22:04     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-10 22:26       ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 22:36       ` Tim Bird
2009-12-10 23:47         ` Steven Rostedt

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