Grub is the bootloader used on Win7?

Grub is the bootloader used on Win7?

[Renato S. Yamane]

​Hi,

I´m a GNU/Linux user, but I have a computer with Windows too (fresh install, with NO Linux installed)

Recently, my RAID5 failed, sometimes I get a corrupetd system and I see Windows loading GRUB!

Anyone now if Windows7 is using Grub as default bootloader (because I don´t believe that Grub is installed on my BIOS)?

- This is the first message error:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7215/img0227s.jpg

- When I press "Enter" I see this:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5285/img0225jm.jpg

- And this is the commands available:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7056/img0229w.jpg

Best regards and Merry Christimas!
Renato S. Yamane

Re: Grub is the bootloader used on Win7?

[Felix Zielcke]

Am Freitag, den 25.12.2009, 19:15 -0200 schrieb Renato S.Yamane:
> ​Hi,
> 
> I´m a GNU/Linux user, but I have a computer with Windows too (fresh
> install, with NO Linux installed)
> 
> Recently, my RAID5 failed, sometimes I get a corrupetd system and I
> see Windows loading GRUB!
> 
> Anyone now if Windows7 is using Grub as default bootloader (because I
> don´t believe that Grub is installed on my BIOS)?
> 
> - This is the first message error:
> http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7215/img0227s.jpg
> 
> - When I press "Enter" I see this:
> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5285/img0225jm.jpg
> 
> - And this is the commands available:
> http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7056/img0229w.jpg
> 
> Best regards and Merry Christimas!
> Renato S. Yamane

Official Windows 7 from Microsoft unmodified, i.e. not some preinstalled
OEM Version does clearly not use GRUB4DOS nor plain GRUB Legacy nor GRUB
2.
They still use bootmgr which they introduced with Vista, which is
basically though the old ntldr from NT4/2000/XP just a bit modified.

GRUB4DOS by the way is just a fork of GRUB and not made by us neither
supported on this list.

-- 
Felix Zielcke
Proud Debian Maintainer and GNU GRUB developer

Re: Grub is the bootloader used on Win7?

[richardvoigt]

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Felix Zielcke <fzielcke@z-51.de> wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 25.12.2009, 19:15 -0200 schrieb Renato S.Yamane:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I´m a GNU/Linux user, but I have a computer with Windows too (fresh
>> install, with NO Linux installed)
>>
>> Recently, my RAID5 failed, sometimes I get a corrupetd system and I
>> see Windows loading GRUB!
>>
>> Anyone now if Windows7 is using Grub as default bootloader (because I
>> don´t believe that Grub is installed on my BIOS)?
>>
>> - This is the first message error:
>> http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7215/img0227s.jpg
>>
>> - When I press "Enter" I see this:
>> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5285/img0225jm.jpg
>>
>> - And this is the commands available:
>> http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7056/img0229w.jpg
>>
>> Best regards and Merry Christimas!
>> Renato S. Yamane
>
> Official Windows 7 from Microsoft unmodified, i.e. not some preinstalled
> OEM Version does clearly not use GRUB4DOS nor plain GRUB Legacy nor GRUB
> 2.
> They still use bootmgr which they introduced with Vista, which is
> basically though the old ntldr from NT4/2000/XP just a bit modified.

SLIC is part of the mechanism Windows (many versions) uses to volume
license to OEMs and enable OEM recovery disks which only work on a
particular brand or model of computer.  The SLIC is supposed to be
included in the system BIOS by the OEM... but software pirates
sometimes patch the SLIC into the BIOS or use a hotpatch program to
load it before booting into Windows (Windows can't tell whether the
SLIC came legit from an OEM BIOS or from a user hack).  It looks like
this system is running an illegal copy of Windows, or at the very
least improperly activated.  Since Windows 7 was released only in
October, there should still be time to get a refund from the company
who sold you the fake copy of Windows, the Microsoft Anti-piracy
hotline would probably be helpful in forcing the company to provide
you with a legitimate copy.

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/reporting.mspx

Re: Grub is the bootloader used on Win7?

[Robert Millan]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:37:49AM -0600, richardvoigt@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> SLIC is part of the mechanism Windows (many versions) uses to volume
> license to OEMs and enable OEM recovery disks which only work on a
> particular brand or model of computer.  The SLIC is supposed to be
> included in the system BIOS by the OEM... but software pirates
> sometimes patch the SLIC into the BIOS or use a hotpatch program to
> load it before booting into Windows (Windows can't tell whether the
> SLIC came legit from an OEM BIOS or from a user hack).  It looks like
> this system is running an illegal copy of Windows, or at the very
> least improperly activated.  Since Windows 7 was released only in
> October, there should still be time to get a refund from the company
> who sold you the fake copy of Windows, the Microsoft Anti-piracy
> hotline would probably be helpful in forcing the company to provide
> you with a legitimate copy.
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/reporting.mspx

Hi,

Please don't refer to people who share code as "pirates".  It'd be much
better if they participated in our community instead of using and
distributing non-free software, but they're not criminals, and the
vast majority of them don't attack ships in the sea.

That aside, discussion about circumvention of copyright restriction
mechanisms is completely off-topic in this list.  Please bring it
elsewhere.

Thanks

-- 
Robert Millan

  "Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Gandhi