From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
jeremy@goop.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
tmem-devel@oss.oracle.com, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
dave.mccracken@oracle.com, sunil.mushran@oracle.com,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Tmem [PATCH 0/5] (Take 3): Transcendent memory
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:51:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091228205102.GC1637@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4ab13eb-daaa-40be-82ad-691505b1f169@default>
Hi!
> > achive this using
> > > > some existing infrastructure in kernel.
> > >
> > > Hi Nitin --
> > >
> > > Sorry if I sounded overly negative... too busy around the holidays.
> > >
> > > I'm definitely OK with exploring alternatives. I just think that
> > > existing kernel mechanisms are very firmly rooted in the notion
> > > that either the kernel owns the memory/cache or an asynchronous
> > > device owns it. Tmem falls somewhere in between and is very
> >
> > Well... compcache seems to be very similar to preswap: in preswap case
> > you don't know if hypervisor will have space, in ramzswap you don't
> > know if data are compressible.
>
> Hi Pavel --
>
> Yes there are definitely similarities too. In fact, I started
> prototyping preswap (now called frontswap) with Nitin's
> compcache code. IIRC I ran into some problems with compcache's
> difficulties in dealing with failed "puts" due to dynamic
> changes in size of hypervisor-available-memory.
>
> Nitin may have addressed this in later versions of ramzswap.
That would be cool to find out.
> One feature of frontswap which is different than ramzswap is
> that frontswap acts as a "fronting store" for all configured
> swap devices, including SAN/NAS swap devices. It doesn't
> need to be separately configured as a "highest priority" swap
> device. In many installations and depending on how ramzswap
Ok, I'd call it a bug, not a feature :-).
Pavel
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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
jeremy@goop.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
tmem-devel@oss.oracle.com, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
dave.mccracken@oracle.com, sunil.mushran@oracle.com,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Tmem [PATCH 0/5] (Take 3): Transcendent memory
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:51:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091228205102.GC1637@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4ab13eb-daaa-40be-82ad-691505b1f169@default>
Hi!
> > achive this using
> > > > some existing infrastructure in kernel.
> > >
> > > Hi Nitin --
> > >
> > > Sorry if I sounded overly negative... too busy around the holidays.
> > >
> > > I'm definitely OK with exploring alternatives. I just think that
> > > existing kernel mechanisms are very firmly rooted in the notion
> > > that either the kernel owns the memory/cache or an asynchronous
> > > device owns it. Tmem falls somewhere in between and is very
> >
> > Well... compcache seems to be very similar to preswap: in preswap case
> > you don't know if hypervisor will have space, in ramzswap you don't
> > know if data are compressible.
>
> Hi Pavel --
>
> Yes there are definitely similarities too. In fact, I started
> prototyping preswap (now called frontswap) with Nitin's
> compcache code. IIRC I ran into some problems with compcache's
> difficulties in dealing with failed "puts" due to dynamic
> changes in size of hypervisor-available-memory.
>
> Nitin may have addressed this in later versions of ramzswap.
That would be cool to find out.
> One feature of frontswap which is different than ramzswap is
> that frontswap acts as a "fronting store" for all configured
> swap devices, including SAN/NAS swap devices. It doesn't
> need to be separately configured as a "highest priority" swap
> device. In many installations and depending on how ramzswap
Ok, I'd call it a bug, not a feature :-).
Pavel
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-21 13:46 Tmem [PATCH 0/5] (Take 3): Transcendent memory Nitin Gupta
2009-12-21 13:46 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-12-21 23:46 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-21 23:46 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-23 6:28 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-12-23 6:28 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-12-23 17:15 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-23 17:15 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-24 3:27 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-12-24 3:27 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-12-24 20:51 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-24 20:51 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-25 19:18 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-25 19:18 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-28 15:57 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-28 15:57 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-28 20:51 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-12-28 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-28 21:41 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-28 21:41 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-29 2:07 ` Nitin Gupta
2009-12-29 2:07 ` Nitin Gupta
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-18 0:36 Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-18 0:36 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-12-18 8:06 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-18 8:06 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-21 10:54 ` Nitin Gupta
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