From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Steve Rago <sar@nec-labs.com>,
"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"jens.axboe" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:48:17 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100107044817.GA18996@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1262839082.2185.15.camel@localhost>
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:38:02PM +0800, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:18 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:51:10AM +0800, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > @@ -533,6 +556,12 @@ select_queue:
> > > inode->i_state |= I_DIRTY_PAGES;
> > > redirty_tail(inode);
> > > }
> > > + } else if (inode->i_state & I_UNSTABLE_PAGES) {
> > > + /*
> > > + * The inode has got yet more unstable pages to
> > > + * commit. Requeue on b_more_io
> > > + */
> > > + requeue_io(inode);
> >
> > This risks "busy retrying" inodes with unstable pages, when
> >
> > - nfs_commit_unstable_pages() don't think it's time to commit
> > - NFS server somehow response slowly
> >
> > The workaround is to use redirty_tail() for now. But that risks delay
> > the COMMIT for up to 30s, which obviously might stuck applications in
> > balance_dirty_pages() for too long.
> >
> > I have a patch to shorten the retry time to 1s (or other constant)
> > by introducing b_more_io_wait. It currently sits in my writeback queue
> > series whose main blocking issue is the constantly broken NFS pipeline..
>
>
> OK. Should I use redirty_tail() for the moment then, and assume you will
> fix when you introduce the new state?
OK, I'll change your redirty_tail() then :)
> > > diff --git a/fs/nfs/write.c b/fs/nfs/write.c
> > > index d171696..910be28 100644
> > > --- a/fs/nfs/write.c
> > > +++ b/fs/nfs/write.c
> > > @@ -441,7 +441,7 @@ nfs_mark_request_commit(struct nfs_page *req)
> > > spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
> > > inc_zone_page_state(req->wb_page, NR_UNSTABLE_NFS);
> > > inc_bdi_stat(req->wb_page->mapping->backing_dev_info, BDI_RECLAIMABLE);
> > > - __mark_inode_dirty(inode, I_DIRTY_DATASYNC);
> > > + mark_inode_unstable_pages(inode);
> >
> > Then we shall mark I_DIRTY_DATASYNC on other places that extend i_size.
>
> Why? The NFS client itself shouldn't ever set I_DIRTY_DATASYNC after
> this patch is applied. We won't ever need it.
>
> If the VM or VFS is doing it, then they ought to be fixed: there is no
> reason to assume that all filesystems need to sync their inodes on
> i_size changes.
Ah OK, I took it for certain..
> > > + /* Don't commit yet if this is a non-blocking flush and there are
> > > + * outstanding writes for this mapping.
> > > + */
> > > + if (wbc->sync_mode != WB_SYNC_ALL &&
> > > + radix_tree_tagged(&NFS_I(inode)->nfs_page_tree,
> > > + NFS_PAGE_TAG_LOCKED)) {
> > > + mark_inode_unstable_pages(inode);
> > > + return 0;
> > > + }
> >
> > A dumb question: does NFS_PAGE_TAG_LOCKED means either flying COMMITs
> > or WRITEs? As an NFS newbie, I'm only confident on the COMMIT part :)
>
> Both writebacks and commits will cause NFS_PAGE_TAG_LOCKED to be set, as
> will attempts to change the page contents. See the calls to
> nfs_set_page_tag_locked()...
Thanks for the tip!
> IOW: the above code will fail to trigger if there are outstanding WRITE
> RPC calls, or if there is a second process that happens to be writing to
> this inode's page cache...
IOW: for a busy "cp", the commit of inode may be delayed until
"nr_unstable > nr_dirty / 2"? OK that's what we want.
Thanks,
Fengguang
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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Myklebust,
Trond" <Trond.Myklebust-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Steve Rago <sar-a+KepyhlMvJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
"jens.axboe" <jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Peter Staubach <staubach-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:48:17 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100107044817.GA18996@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1262839082.2185.15.camel@localhost>
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:38:02PM +0800, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:18 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:51:10AM +0800, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > @@ -533,6 +556,12 @@ select_queue:
> > > inode->i_state |= I_DIRTY_PAGES;
> > > redirty_tail(inode);
> > > }
> > > + } else if (inode->i_state & I_UNSTABLE_PAGES) {
> > > + /*
> > > + * The inode has got yet more unstable pages to
> > > + * commit. Requeue on b_more_io
> > > + */
> > > + requeue_io(inode);
> >
> > This risks "busy retrying" inodes with unstable pages, when
> >
> > - nfs_commit_unstable_pages() don't think it's time to commit
> > - NFS server somehow response slowly
> >
> > The workaround is to use redirty_tail() for now. But that risks delay
> > the COMMIT for up to 30s, which obviously might stuck applications in
> > balance_dirty_pages() for too long.
> >
> > I have a patch to shorten the retry time to 1s (or other constant)
> > by introducing b_more_io_wait. It currently sits in my writeback queue
> > series whose main blocking issue is the constantly broken NFS pipeline..
>
>
> OK. Should I use redirty_tail() for the moment then, and assume you will
> fix when you introduce the new state?
OK, I'll change your redirty_tail() then :)
> > > diff --git a/fs/nfs/write.c b/fs/nfs/write.c
> > > index d171696..910be28 100644
> > > --- a/fs/nfs/write.c
> > > +++ b/fs/nfs/write.c
> > > @@ -441,7 +441,7 @@ nfs_mark_request_commit(struct nfs_page *req)
> > > spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
> > > inc_zone_page_state(req->wb_page, NR_UNSTABLE_NFS);
> > > inc_bdi_stat(req->wb_page->mapping->backing_dev_info, BDI_RECLAIMABLE);
> > > - __mark_inode_dirty(inode, I_DIRTY_DATASYNC);
> > > + mark_inode_unstable_pages(inode);
> >
> > Then we shall mark I_DIRTY_DATASYNC on other places that extend i_size.
>
> Why? The NFS client itself shouldn't ever set I_DIRTY_DATASYNC after
> this patch is applied. We won't ever need it.
>
> If the VM or VFS is doing it, then they ought to be fixed: there is no
> reason to assume that all filesystems need to sync their inodes on
> i_size changes.
Ah OK, I took it for certain..
> > > + /* Don't commit yet if this is a non-blocking flush and there are
> > > + * outstanding writes for this mapping.
> > > + */
> > > + if (wbc->sync_mode != WB_SYNC_ALL &&
> > > + radix_tree_tagged(&NFS_I(inode)->nfs_page_tree,
> > > + NFS_PAGE_TAG_LOCKED)) {
> > > + mark_inode_unstable_pages(inode);
> > > + return 0;
> > > + }
> >
> > A dumb question: does NFS_PAGE_TAG_LOCKED means either flying COMMITs
> > or WRITEs? As an NFS newbie, I'm only confident on the COMMIT part :)
>
> Both writebacks and commits will cause NFS_PAGE_TAG_LOCKED to be set, as
> will attempts to change the page contents. See the calls to
> nfs_set_page_tag_locked()...
Thanks for the tip!
> IOW: the above code will fail to trigger if there are outstanding WRITE
> RPC calls, or if there is a second process that happens to be writing to
> this inode's page cache...
IOW: for a busy "cp", the commit of inode may be delayed until
"nr_unstable > nr_dirty / 2"? OK that's what we want.
Thanks,
Fengguang
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2009-12-17 2:03 [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Steve Rago
2009-12-17 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-18 19:33 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-18 19:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 19:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 21:20 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-18 21:20 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-18 22:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 22:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 22:46 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-18 22:46 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-19 8:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-19 8:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-19 13:37 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-19 13:37 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-18 19:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-18 19:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-19 12:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-19 12:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-19 14:25 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-22 1:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-22 12:35 ` Jan Kara
2009-12-22 12:35 ` Jan Kara
2009-12-22 12:35 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20091222123538.GB604-jyMamyUUXNJG4ohzP4jBZS1Fcj925eT/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 8:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-23 8:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-23 8:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-23 13:32 ` Jan Kara
2009-12-23 13:32 ` Jan Kara
2009-12-23 13:32 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20091223133244.GB3159-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24 5:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 5:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 5:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 1:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-22 13:01 ` Martin Knoblauch
2009-12-22 13:01 ` Martin Knoblauch
[not found] ` <787373.9318.qm-rpBZDh8Qtqs5A34FEqDeB/u2YVrzzGjVVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24 1:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 1:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-22 16:41 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-22 16:41 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-24 1:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 14:49 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-24 14:49 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-24 14:49 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-25 7:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-23 14:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 14:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 14:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 18:05 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20091223180551.GD3159-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 19:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 19:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 19:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-24 2:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 2:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 2:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 12:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-24 12:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-24 12:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-25 5:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-25 5:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-25 5:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-30 16:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-31 5:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31 5:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31 5:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31 19:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 3:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 16:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 16:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 16:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 18:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 18:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-06 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-06 18:52 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 18:52 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-06 19:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:09 ` Jan Kara
2010-01-06 20:09 ` Jan Kara
2010-01-06 20:51 ` [PATCH 0/6] " Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100106205110.22547.85345.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 20:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] VM: Don't call bdi_stat(BDI_UNSTABLE) on non-nfs backing-devices Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 1:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] VM/NFS: The VM must tell the filesystem when to free reclaimable pages Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 2:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 4:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 5:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 5:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 5:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 5:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 14:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 14:41 ` [PATCH 0/5] Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100107144137.17158.53673.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07 14:41 ` [PATCH 4/5] VM/NFS: The VM must tell the filesystem when to free reclaimable pages Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:41 ` [PATCH 1/5] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:41 ` [PATCH 5/5] NFS: Run COMMIT as an asynchronous RPC call when wbc->for_background is set Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:41 ` [PATCH 3/5] VM: Don't call bdi_stat(BDI_UNSTABLE) on non-nfs backing-devices Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:41 ` [PATCH 2/5] VM: Split out the accounting of unstable writes from BDI_RECLAIMABLE Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] NFS: Run COMMIT as an asynchronous RPC call when wbc->for_background is set Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100106205110.22547.31434.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07 2:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 2:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] VM: Split out the accounting of unstable writes from BDI_RECLAIMABLE Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100106205110.22547.93554.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07 1:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 1:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100106205110.22547.17971.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 21:38 ` Jan Kara
2010-01-06 21:38 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20100106213843.GD22781-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 21:48 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 21:48 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 2:18 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 2:18 ` Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <1262839082.2185.15.camel@localhost>
2010-01-07 4:48 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-01-07 4:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 4:53 ` [PATCH 0/5] Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100107045330.5986.55090.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07 4:53 ` [PATCH 5/5] NFS: Run COMMIT as an asynchronous RPC call when wbc->for_background is set Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` [PATCH 1/5] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` [PATCH 4/5] VM/NFS: The VM must tell the filesystem when to free reclaimable pages Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` [PATCH 3/5] VM: Don't call bdi_stat(BDI_UNSTABLE) on non-nfs backing-devices Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` [PATCH 2/5] VM: Split out the accounting of unstable writes from BDI_RECLAIMABLE Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 4:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:56 ` [PATCH 1/6] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 14:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 15:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 15:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 1:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08 1:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08 1:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 1:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 1:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08 1:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08 9:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-08 9:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-08 13:46 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 13:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-08 14:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] VM: Use per-bdi unstable accounting to improve use of wbc->force_commit Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <20100106205110.22547.32584.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07 2:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 2:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 21:44 ` [PATCH 0/6] Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Jan Kara
2010-01-06 21:44 ` Jan Kara
2010-01-06 22:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 12:25 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20091222122557.GA604-jyMamyUUXNJG4ohzP4jBZS1Fcj925eT/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-22 12:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 12:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 12:55 ` Jan Kara
2009-12-22 12:55 ` Jan Kara
2009-12-22 16:20 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-23 18:39 ` Jan Kara
2009-12-23 18:39 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20091223183912.GE3159-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 20:16 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-23 20:16 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-23 21:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 21:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 23:13 ` Steve Rago
2009-12-23 23:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 23:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-24 4:30 ` Steve Rago
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