From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:31:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100107173118.GG6764@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1262884716.4049.103.camel@laptop>
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 06:18:36PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 08:52 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:44:15AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:35 -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The number of threads doesn't matter nearly as much as the number of
> > > > threads typically running at a time compared to the number of
> > > > processors. Of course, we can't measure that as easily, but I don't
> > > > know that your proposed heuristic would approximate it well.
> > >
> > > Quite agreed, and not disturbing RT tasks is even more important.
> >
> > OK, so I stand un-Reviewed-by twice in one morning. ;-)
> >
> > > A simple:
> > >
> > > for_each_cpu(cpu, current->mm->cpu_vm_mask) {
> > > if (cpu_curr(cpu)->mm == current->mm)
> > > smp_call_function_single(cpu, func, NULL, 1);
> > > }
> > >
> > > seems far preferable over anything else, if you really want you can use
> > > a cpumask to copy cpu_vm_mask in and unset bits and use the mask with
> > > smp_call_function_any(), but that includes having to allocate the
> > > cpumask, which might or might not be too expensive for Mathieu.
> >
> > This would be vulnerable to the sys_membarrier() CPU seeing an old value
> > of cpu_curr(cpu)->mm, and that other task seeing the old value of the
> > pointer we are trying to RCU-destroy, right?
>
> Right, so I was thinking that since you want a mb to be executed when
> calling sys_membarrier(). If you observe a matching ->mm but the cpu has
> since scheduled, we're good since it scheduled (but we'll still send the
> IPI anyway), if we do not observe it because the task gets scheduled in
> after we do the iteration we're still good because it scheduled.
Something like the following for sys_membarrier(), then?
smp_mb();
for_each_cpu(cpu, current->mm->cpu_vm_mask) {
if (cpu_curr(cpu)->mm == current->mm)
smp_call_function_single(cpu, func, NULL, 1);
}
Then the code changing ->mm on the other CPU also needs to have a
full smp_mb() somewhere after the change to ->mm, but before starting
user-space execution. Which it might well just due to overhead, but
we need to make sure that someone doesn't optimize us out of existence.
Thanx, Paul
> As to needing to keep rcu_read_lock() around the iteration, for sure we
> need that to ensure the remote task_struct reference we take is valid.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-07 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-07 4:40 [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 5:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 5:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 8:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 16:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 5:28 ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07 6:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 6:32 ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07 17:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 5:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 6:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 6:35 ` Josh Triplett
2010-01-07 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 13:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 15:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 17:31 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2010-01-07 17:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 17:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 18:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 18:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 14:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 15:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 17:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 8:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-07 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-01-07 18:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 18:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 19:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 19:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 20:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 21:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-07 22:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-08 22:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-08 23:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 0:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09 1:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 1:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09 1:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09 2:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 5:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-09 19:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 23:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-09 23:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 0:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 0:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 1:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 1:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 2:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 5:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 11:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 16:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 16:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 17:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 21:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-10 21:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 1:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 17:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 18:24 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 1:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 4:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 4:29 ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v3a) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 17:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 17:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 17:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 20:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 22:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 22:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 22:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 22:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 21:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-11 4:30 ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v3b) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 22:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 15:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-12 16:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-12 16:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-12 16:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 18:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-12 18:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 0:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 16:25 ` [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-11 20:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-11 21:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-14 2:56 ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-01-14 5:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-14 5:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 5:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 1:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 5:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 1:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-10 1:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-09 23:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-10 1:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 9:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-07 15:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 16:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-07 11:04 ` David Howells
2010-01-07 15:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-07 15:47 ` David Howells
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